RNS,

Thanks for the details. Would you mind posting some of the pictures?

Thanks again.

ASS_CLOWN

GOT A chance to check out my loading log.
My 550grHC for the 45/70, out of the guide gun was 1565fps
45gr of 3031. It is a comressed load and tough on the cases.
I don't reload those as there is measurable case stretch. recoil is "noticable"

It WILL ring the steel loudly at 100yds.

man I miss all the fun! I should be mounting my sights and recoil lug later this week. Then I can try the 600 out at least as a single shot. I wish we had test hogs < !--color--> in New York. Look forward to your pics.
Dean

I have talked to some people here in Sweden who hunting with 45-70 and 405 grains Woodleigh at 1850 f/s. They said that they could not se any difference between 45-70 and .308 on their Moose, and they had shot around 20. They also said that Woodleigh 405 grains bullet didn�t expand much if anything at this velocity. Woodleigh show that this bullet shall hit the target at 1700 to 2000 f/s so I think it�s difficult to reach that velocity out from a guide gun. That bullet must leave the barrel at 2100 f/s I think to hit the target with +1700 f/s.

With Speer bullet there is no problem with expansion at 1700 f/s or just below that. I prefer to hit the Moose on his shoulder. I use bullets from Cast Performance. Usually they don�t expand at all I think if I hold them at 1800 f/s to 1900 f/s (I have never found any bullet yet). I have shot them in wet newspaper at that velocity and after traveling trough 48" they had not expand at all. I use them in my 458 WIN. I have tried other bullets too, but now I prefer this bullet instead of Woodleigh or other bullets.

They outpenetrate a big wildhog or a Moose much better than a 405 grains Woodleigh don�t matter if I hit bone and shoulders. That bullet don�t destroy meat as much as for example Hornady 350 grains or other bullets I have tried out. I can push that bullet alot more if I want, but it�s no need. The bullet make a very big whole through the animal, mostly bigger than I get from a 405 grains Woodleigh at 2100 f/s.

I must say that when I compare to other bullets I have tried on the same size of animal they going down much faster when I hit them with this bullet, most of them died on the place there I shot them.

I�m sure on that a bigger bullets makes the animal to go down faster if you hit him on the same place with both calibers, but it�s important to choose a bullet wich is designed to work on that game and that velocity.

My bullets choice for the second place is Woodleigh or Hornady. I�m sure there are alot more bullets on the market that is very good, but I have not tried them yet.

Karl-Erik Svensson

Brent,

Jeffo is right...I mean the name of the bullet that I use. Woodleigh Call it the .577 650 gr Black Powder Express or .577 650 gr BPE. I use this bullet as I figure it's reduced reccomended impact velcoity over the standard .577 bullets will mean some expansion on the smaller stuff I shoot. So far I have not recovered a 650 gr soft from an animal only ones that have been shot into dirt etc.

Hi!

yes I do hunt Moose with cast bullets from Cast Perfomance. I don�t know if they expand becourse of that I have never found any bullet after shoting Moose yet. The bullet makes a hole through the Moose in size of a golfball, and it�s the same size of the hole in and out. I load them to around 1900 f/s, and sometimes I have loaded them to 2000 f/s.

I think that they expand a little bit becourse of that I allways shot through the shoulders to brake it.