After reading through Pecos thread on his custom 22, I have also caught the bug. So I have decided to do the following:
1.) I will chamber for 22 extra long so I can fire the following cartridges:
22 short 22 long 22 long rifle 22 extra long
2.) Equip the rifle with iron sights. There will be no scope as this is a stopping rifle only meant for short range engagements!
3.) I will use a Winchester controlled feed bolt action!
4.) Rust blue the action and stock furniture. Being a "real" man I have decided to use a crescent steel butt plate in leiu of a recoil pad!
5.) Exhibition walnut stock! This is for show I admit, but what the heck this is a custom rifle afterall! The stock will be carved with sufficient drop at comb to be optimized for eye to sight alignment. I will not use a cheek piece, because IMHO it inhibits eye to sight alignment when using iron sights. I am also opting for Schnabel forearm configuration.
Pecos, I have no interest in racing with you. It is my opinion that it is best to do it correctly the first time. So paying heed to Ben Franklin's famous proverb, "haste makes waste", I must decline the offer to race. However, I will share pictures of my 22 DGR when complete. I look forward to seeing your completed 22 DGR, as well!
Axel, I think this is a wise decision on your part. All of us here on the big bore forum have long believed the guns you dreamed about were too much for you. And let's face it, where you live isn't exactly a sanctuary of dangerous game...other than the thug down on the street corner waiting to mug you.
What are the diminsions of the .22 Extra Long Case? What is it's water capacity? Where will you get your cases?
Good luck with your project! I think you can handle this one.
Posts: 19677 | Location: New Mexico | Registered: 23 May 2002
OK, Axel, now you have done it!!!!!! This is my area of "been there done that" so you just stay away!!! I have a 4.5 MM rotary magazine fed DGR already up and running. I can load either a Penetrating pointed nose bullet or a Devastating Bone Crushing FLAT POINT, that will leave any game shot with it dead in it's tracks!!! I even have followup shots available if needed, which has never been the case. If I run across smaller field game, I can make up a custom "spit wad" from any paper handy. Talk about versatile!!! There are even shot loads available, alas, only one shot at a time, but DEVASTATING at close range. I have, however, elected to put a scope on this monster, 4X is more than enough. By using earplugs with earmuffs over, I can feel the cycling, but suffer no damage to my already damaged hearing, and by careful recoil control techniques, can be back on target by the time the first round impacts the target. OOOPPPSSS, you are doing a 22 cal, sorry, it should be much more effective than my 4.5/700 as I call it (cal/vel). Best of luck on your project!!
Posts: 1944 | Location: Moses Lake, WA | Registered: 06 November 2001
The 22 extra long case is 0.75" long. This compares to 0.595" for the 22 long and 22 LR.
The 22 extra long case capacity is: 7.25 gr of water.
Ballistics for the 22 extra long from my test barrel are: 40 gr lead bullet at 1510 fps.
Bullet diameter is still 0.223"
This rifle will be my back-up stopper in case my M70 585 (looking more and more like a 375) fails to put the beastie down. Hence the irons sights only.
8mm., is that Devastating Bone Crushing FLAT POINT the same DBC-FP bullet originated by Dr. Mann or A.O. Niedner? If so, I can attest to it's effectiveness. I used to shoot rats in the Bordeaux Air Force Base Officer's Club with these slugs at night, and was never charged by a wounded one once!!
ElD - I've done some "rat stalking" in my time as well, but never in the Officer's Club. I would love to hear more about your hair-raising adventures. How close do you let them get before you fire? Shot placement? Hide damage? Penetration? Do you have any mounts you can photograph and share with us? And most importantly, did you ever miss and accidentally break a bottle of liquor?
Thanks - P45
Posts: 19677 | Location: New Mexico | Registered: 23 May 2002
quote:Originally posted by 500grains: I think I smell some horse potatoes.
500grains - Sir, if you will click on Axel's profile, you will see that he is an engineer and therefor should NOT be questioned in technical matters.
Exactly! I, for one, would the *last* to suggest that he is a pimply-faced teenager trying to get his jollies by seeing if he can stir us up. The richness and depth of his experience comes through every time.
*I* certainly believe everything he has posted!
Posts: 1006 | Location: northern Sweden | Registered: 22 May 2002
Pecos, most of them rats (4-legged type) was shot off'n pipes that ran across just under the ceilings, and due to their shape, the bullets mostly stayed in their carcasses, so we didn't have many holes in the ceiling! Most the varmints were pretty well done for when they hit the floor!! Rifle was a converted M 75 Winchester sporter. Wish I still had that rifle!!
What a sad sad case. This poor Axel, insulting and lying pathologically to everyone he comes in contact with and then asking for their forgiveness and respect the next day! As you can all imagine, he has no "real people" friends and no social skills. We should all just feel really sorry for him and hope he can get some help. Responding to him seems to be only driving him deeper into the make believe world he lives in. For the sake of this poor lost soul, ignore him.
Posts: 1554 | Location: NC | Registered: 10 June 2002
quote:Originally posted by eldeguello: 8mm., is that Devastating Bone Crushing FLAT POINT the same DBC-FP bullet originated by Dr. Mann or A.O. Niedner? If so, I can attest to it's effectiveness. I used to shoot rats in the Bordeaux Air Force Base Officer's Club with these slugs at night, and was never charged by a wounded one once!!
I checked the box........that is, shipping container, and mine are the DREADED Copperhead by Crosman, probably so named due to the killing power of the vortex in the case of a near miss, kills from shock I guess. I don't see any copper anywhere on them. Powered by the Copperhead Preoxidized gas storage cylinder, suited for multiple shots. As it propels by phase change of liquid to gas, it causes a dramatic drop in temperature of the projectile, thereby stress relieving the projectile AS IT IS SHOT, talk about hitech. Assures that the projectile does not shatter on impact, no doubt, and cools the barrel at the same time.
OK, I quit.
Posts: 1944 | Location: Moses Lake, WA | Registered: 06 November 2001