While I need it like anouther hole in my head I'm thinking about getting a 375. Not looking for a high $$ classic but more of a nice hunting rifle. I've know where I can get a Whitworth, there is the basic CZ what else. Model 70.

Your experiences. What is the issue with the CZ safety?

I've been very happy with my Model 70. It shoots well, handles well, and works well.

Folks like the CZ, too. It will hold more rounds than the Model 70. The issue with the safety, as I hear it, is that it works in the opposite manner of other rifles, i.e., forward to safe, rear to fire.
I don't have a CZ, as they won't make them in lefthand (the CZ Model 3 is is an MRC action, not a CZ).

George

I have a 375 in the cz 550,in fact I got a nice little black bear with it yesterday at about 8 oclock. the newer cz's like mine have the safety forward to fire and back to safe ..Nice accurate light recoiling rifle due to the weight I guess. mine has the american stock which I like.Only thing I do not like so far is you can hear cartridges rattle in the magazine if you only have a couple in there. Stick four or five in there no problem..The cz has the sweetest trigger I have ever used.

If you can get over the emotional hurdle of the CRF feature there's a few good .375 s out there that are worthy of consideration. Remington's classic is available occasionally (like a dumb a$$ I sold mine for $500) and Sako also has a few good .375s out there.

Personally I like the Winchester but if I found a Whitworth Mauser I'd grab it in a heartbeat.

I will never let go of my Whitworth.

Look at the Sako Stainless/Synthetic. It is very accurate right out of the box. I like the palmswell and it has good balance. CHEERS

I have a SAKO 375 H&H Hunter 75. It is a great gun.

IMO, if the Whitworth is in good shape, I'd not hesitate for one minute! I'm a died in the wool Whitworth fan, and have two, both chambered for 375H&H, one in a synthetic stock for Alaska, and one in wood for Africa. Both are fitted with Warne/Kimber QD rings and bases, the synthetic one topped with a 3-9 x40mm, and the wood one with a Luepold 1-4.5 VeriXII, had a 458 Whitworth rechambered to 458 LOTT, but, sadly, I sold it for money to buy a double that I just had to have.

I was out looking at guns yesterday and was suprised to see a upgraded CZ in 375H&H. Price was right @ 1K but the wood was suprisingly good. It still needs the minor CZ clean-up and tweaking but it was a pretty nice rifle all and all.

Find a good used Whitworth Express, Its a Mauser and they all shoot well...best buy out there today...

I really like the Ruger 77 Safari also, its a bargain rifle...

Thanks guys. Since the majority of my rifles are 98s of some type I was leaning that way.

Since you were so helpful so far I have a couple more questions.

Is there a real difference between a Mark X in 375 and a Whitworth? Since both are built on the Mark X action.

Will the 375 fit a normal Mark X stock with only internal inletting?

The two Daly's I built for myself both shoot and appear as good as the later Mark Xs I own. Assuming it would fit in a normal Mark X stock would you try a Daly barreled action for $389??

I have a cz 550 safari with the dreaded Hogsback and I actually like the stock for some reason...................use the same stock on .458 lott as well. I mounted a leupold 1-4 but would also be happy with a 2-7 leupold. The .375 H&H is just such a great round, I reckon just get the one that your gut tells you is right for you.

I handled a SAKO once and I agree it felt really well balanced. I also handled a rem 700 and I reckon it was a little to light for my liking in a .375 but it would carry great if you like rem 700's in big cals.

I own a Mod 70 Safari Express and a Whitworth. Both are in 375 H&H. I like both of them!

At one time I would have automatically said Model 70.

But now I think I would go CZ after seeing the junk coming from Winchester.

CZ also offers a much longer magazine and not all accurate loads in 375 will shoot with the 3.6" OAL but that is the limit in the M70.

If buying M70 I would take the Stainless because they don't have the barrel fucked up by the way Winchester adds the barrel recoil lug, which by the way is totally unrequired on an M70 in 375.

The best shooting and most trouble free 375s I have seen (and owned) have been the Wbys but somehow a Wby and a 375 do not go together. Like the CZ the Wbys also have a long magazine. These were the Synthetic models.

I think for best accuracy and the alsolute reliability in feeding I would pick the HS Precision as it uses the vertical stack centre line feed system.

Mike

I know it's not CRF, but one of the better and more overlooked 375s for the money is the old Sako "safari"

- drop box mag, quarter rib, bbl banded front sight & swivel, good wood, good stock config. If you find one, snatch it up quickly! there aren't too many out there and they can be had for much less than the cost of replacing the components alone.

My .375 is a Brno ZKK 602, now referred to as a CZ. I have owned 3 and one being the Ackley Improved. Recoil is nil, even when firing 92 grains of Reloader 19 behind a 270 grain bullet in the improved. They are very accurate and rugged. I have found that getting the action hand lapped livens things up considerably.

So if I get a Browning every one is going to throw rocks at me, right?

OK, if we are not going to abide by the CRF rule, how about a Sauer 202?

500grains
I have a SAUER 202 Takedown in 375 H&H and 416 REM. It is by far my favorite rifle. CHEERS

I got lucky last year. I had a friend locate a new in the box Whitworth African Express in 375 H&H..original packaging and paperwork. We are headed to Namibia in September together......if you can still get it and it is in good shape, you will not let go of it!

Bob

If you want a barreled action PM me I have a Whitworth that as never been in a stock.

Bob,
Very nice!

Far be it for me to tell someone with the rifles you have about a .375 but I purchased a Hill Country Rifle .375 recently. It is a re-worked Winchester model 70 control round feed action and has a Lilja barrel and NECG see through sights. It shoots like a dream and feeding is flawless.

Bob I like your whitworth...........I do not think many made it to Australia.

PC
saw an add for a Whitworth the other day was in 308 I think. You are right there would be very few here.
Looking at a Wby synthetic 375 secondhand for 1100 at the moment, wondering how much it would cost to convert to 458lott, and if it would just be a matter of changing barrels or action work would be needed

the Whitworth is the supergrade of Mark 10s, a true Whitworth comes out of London...As long as it has the leaf iron sights and English style stock its a Whitworth IMO...The Whitworths had good barrels and I have never seen one that didn't shoot well....

The older model sakos like A3,A4,A5. are great if you dont require crf.

.416,

it should be a re-barrel...........I think.

I have decided I want a cz550 Varmint Kevlar in .308, there will be a fair wait to get this model to Australia.

ramrod,

try to shoot the various rifles you are considering. The CZ will shoot the softest, and has the benefit of the larger mag capacity. I find the CZ (yes I have one) to be a little too big (massive?) for the H&H round. I like my pre-64 M70 and Classic M70 in the 375 cartridge. The recoil is okay and you have a much trimmer package. The 375 to me is a great all around round and I reserve the bigger actions for the Rigby+ rounds.

I love my pre-64 wood stocked rifle, but am currently setting up my M70 Classic as my everyday rifle. This rifle is stainless, will have a McMillan stock and be my "beater". Any 375 is a winner in my book, just decide on which one and enjoy! Try to shoot as many 375s as you, make your choice and go for it. The 375 H&H in any rifle (provided it is of propper weight) is a win/win proposition.

John

My brother and I each have a CZ 550 in .375, mine with the hogback and his with the American style stock. We both like the way they shoot. I have yet to kill anything with mine, he just returned from Zimbabwe and really liked using it.