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Busted! What really hacks me off is that we are not going to get that picture of the sign that says "Pecos is an Arse." Sorry, Pecos. I am having too much fun at your expense. [Big Grin]
 
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Nice attempt Axel.

Now go away.
 
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Gentlemen, I admit that I borrowed the picture from Claude Gatewood's website. He stocked the rifle for me. I do not know where you are getting this 500 caliber stuff from. The rifle is a 450 Ackely magnum.

If you do not believe me email or call Claude and ask him. He will tell you that he stocked that rifle for Axel Dempel.

Axel

[ 10-19-2002, 15:37: Message edited by: Axel ]
 
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Given the Axel handle "owns" a 450 Ackley and even went to the trouble of rechambering a 458 to 450 Ackley as opposed to 458 Lott, you might like to see part of a post it/she/he just made on another thread.

This is the Axel handle making reference to Ackley calibers [Big Grin]

His improved cartridges do not have enough additional powder capacity to achieve the velocity advances he claims unless of course you increase your operating pressures by 25% or more! If you are going to increase pressure, why bother rechambering to the Ackley improved chamber in the first place.

Of course as we know, it was probably a different it/she/he posting via the Axel handle on that posting.

Mike

[ 10-19-2002, 16:48: Message edited by: Mike375 ]
 
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Mike, the 450 Ackley is not an "improved" versionb of an existing cartridge. Ackely is most famous for his 30-06 Improved, 30-30 Improved, so on and so forth. These "improved" cartridges are a joke. The sharper shoulders only real benefit is not additional velocity, but reduced case stretch.
The 450 Ackley is a full length shouldered 45 caliber big bore based upon the 375 H&H case. Anyone with any big bore knowledge knows this.

Now go perform you action blow-up experiments. Do not forget to digitally record these so you can play it all back to us here at AR.

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Buffalo_Buster,

You should change your name to Alex_Buster!
 
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Axel handle,

The 450 Ackley is a typical Ackley with virtually no body taper and sharp shoulder. The 458 Lott is the "non improved version"

By the way, "your rifle" is shown on another thread from the other side and it is very clearly a CZ and the cartrdge shown is not a 450 Ackely.

I sincerely hope that the various people using the Axel and Todd E handle are posting their stupidity and bullshit on purpose. If they are not doing it deliberately, then help should be sought. RAB is a doctor and he might be able to offer help or a referral.

Mike

[ 10-19-2002, 17:10: Message edited by: Mike375 ]
 
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Axel,

These are some of your quotes.

"You all asked me to post a picture of one of my custom rifles. I did. The bullets are a 308 and a 458 Ackley."

One thing is right, that is a 308. Two things are wrong. There is no 458 Ackley, it is a 450 Ackley. And the 450 Ackley has a belt and less shoulder. Here is a picture of a 500 Jeffery and a 500 AHR.

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"It is a 450 Ackley next to a 308."

You can go to Gatewood's website and as you run your mouse over the photos (that you admittedly copied) it clearly states that the cartridges are a 500 AHR and a 308. OH! and the rifle is built on a CZ ACTION! Just as I said before. Or did you forget your next lie. I'll post it for you again.

"The rifle is a M70 Winchester Supergrade, orinially chambered in 458 Win mag, which has been rechambered to 450 Ackley. I despise the Winchester three position safety so I had it replaced with a Remington style side safety and a new bolt shroud made, which was a copy of the Weatherby MkV. I liked the integral scope mount feature of the Ruger M77 so I had low profile "copies" made to fit the M70's action bridges. They are screwed and silver soldered in place. This gives the rifle the look of a double square bridged Mauser with integral scope ring bases. The finishing touch is the 1/4 rib on the barrel."

"Longbob,

READ MY POSTS!!!!!!!!!! I explained how the square bridges were created!

It is pretty obvious to me looking at the pictures YOU posted that the "bridges" on my rifle are considerably higher than those on the CZ550!!!!!!!!!!!

Axel"

I think we have a "Busted Axel."

[ 10-19-2002, 17:36: Message edited by: Longbob ]
 
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Mike375, you flatter me. The action is a M70 not a CZ550, but the machining work was meant to make a M70 into a CZ550. You are incorrect; however, teh rifle is a 450 Ackley. BTW, the 450 Ackley existed long before the 458 Lott. So how could the Ackley be an Improved Lott? You are such an idiot! Oh, go screw yourself Mike. I am not an idiot, that is YOUR title.

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Axel,

The picture of the other side of the rifle gives it away 100% fora CZ and you have no idea why.

It does not matter a fuck when the 458 Lott and 450 Ackley were introduced. Whatever objections you have to the Ackleys will also apply to the 450 Ackley even though the 458 Lott was introduced later. Why would you chamber for 450 Ackley when you don't like Ackley calibers and the 458 Lott is a factory round. Even you can't that be that fucked up, so the only conclusion is that more than one person is posting via the Axel handle. Now of course the different personalities might just be you moving in and out of different personalities as you travel though your pretend world.

As to the cartridges, note that the bullet diamter of the bigger one is greater than the case diameter of the 308, which is around .470"

You are in need of serious help.

Mike
 
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T.Carr, that is an old Winchester gallery gun isn't it? It appears to be in rather poor condition. Perhaps you should have it restored. I hear these rifles bring good money in the collectors market.


Well actually, Axel, this here is another stupid thing you said. I admit I dont know much about DGR's, but I DO know a thing or so about the antique market.

I have found it true that "Restoring" a "antique" leaves it basically, valueless. Collectors, generally, would rather have a specimen that had the original finishes, even if they are in not-so-wonderful condition, rather than a current-year finish.
 
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Axel handle,

Yousaid you had your rifle made so that the bolt shroud was a copy of the Wby Mark V.

Here is Wby

http://www.weatherby.com/rifles/action_mag.shtml

You need to get a refund [Big Grin]

Mike
 
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Axel,

Stop living in la la land and own up for your lies. It's not going to help you to continue to defend the indefensible, so just try and salvage whatever reputation you still have left if you can. Admit that the whole exercise was a prank and you may still find people on AR who are willing to excuse you for this ridiculous exercise. Don't and you will continue to look like a pathetic liar.

Pecos 45, Buffalo Buster, Mike 375 and friends who caught this character out - thanks. Someone like me who is trying to learn something genuine is grateful to you for exposing this poseur.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Axel:
[QB]Gentlemen, I admit that I borrowed the picture from Claude Gatewood's website.

And I thought you "borrowed" your neighbor's camera to take that picture. Remember the neighbor who wasn't home when a forum member asked you to take the picture again with your name tag in it???
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AXEL said - I apologize for the poor picture quality. I used a neighbors camera and it is cheap.
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Afer looking at the pics I ask you AXEL, If this is your rifle and you used you neighbors camera, did you you it to take the pictures of the other guns there as well? Green back drop and all? I CALL BULLSHIT!!! LMAO!

I see it this way, if its your, you lied about the camera, if its not you lied about..... ooohhh I get it, your a fucking liar... Makes perfect sense now.

Go away BOY, you bother me!

JAG
 
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Good work B-Buster,

Axel,

I'm sorry I ever doubted your mechanical prowess. You have done built yourself a rifle just like Claude Gatewood did. Now please do pose with it in front of your dad's big lathe.

H. C.
 
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Axel tell me my friend that you have not taken advantage of a fellow Germans good will. [Frown]
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AXEL You have sunken to the LOWEST, LYING POS on this website. You are utter lying scum. You can take your Todd E. SRS and all your other equally stupid, lying personalities and shove them up your phoney ass.

I'm so sick of your lies and excuses I could puke.

And you can take your equally phoney "apologies" and shove them up your lying ass as well.
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Busted! What really hacks me off is that we are not going to get that picture of the sign that says "Pecos is an Arse." Sorry, Pecos. I am having too much fun at your expense. [Big Grin]

Longbob, what if I take a picture of myself with a sign around my neck saying "I am an Arse?"

Would that make you happy? [Big Grin]

Note to self: "Get scanner fixed!" [Frown]
 
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Thanks, guys for proclaiming the truth. I still take credit for calling Todd E a phony first. Todd E is Axel is who knows how many other lying scum bags/aliases.

This was so hilarious I couldn't help but post. We are all supposed to ignore the "posseur." Hard to ignore a hanging though. Give 'em enough rope and they will hang themselves.

The amazing part of it is that Todd/Axel/etc. just won't learn! That idiot just keeps hanging himself over and over and ...
 
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Pecos,

You are too funny. I will admit that this whole Axel thing has been a blast. [Smile]
 
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Longbob, I sent you an email with more pictures of my custom 450 Ackley. I sent a closer shot of the action so you can see it really is a highly modified M70, and a close-up of the muzzle so Robgunbuilder can see this is a BIG bore.

I would appreciate it if you would post these for me.

Thanks,
Axel
 
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Axel,

I've been checking my e-mail and it has not shown up yet. Try again.
 
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Gentlemen,

ToddE/Axel/SRS/NRAChick (and who knows how many other personae) is just an asshole who likes to waste other people's time.

He's very easy to spot; he tries to establish his credentials early on, then proceeds to make specious claims.

The best indication that he is a troll is that he never supplies a valid e-mail, and makes seemingly authoritative statements, but cannot provide concrete examples or proof of his handiwork (except for plagiarized/pilfered photos).

I exposed his bullshit long ago in one of the .45-70 vs. buffalo threads; he has become transparent to most veterans of this site.

The best course of actions is to ignore him completely.

George
 
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Daggaron - I disagree. Axel has not hung himself. He has woven himself a wicker basket! [Big Grin]

The boy is a total fool and consumate troll. He fools only himself and thinks it's funny to prey on other people's sincerity and trust.

You can't reach a much lower level of swamp scum that this in my book. [Mad]

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Longbob - I hope you will not follow thru with your offer to post any more crap from Todd E/Axel. Doing so only wastes time and bandwidth.

Whatever he says, whatever he does, it will be a lie. That's all he has to offer is lies and deceit. [Mad]
 
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Well Axel, I stayed neutral for long enough on this one. I would venture to say that I would probably have more first hand experience on spotting Winchester bottom metal than anyone on this continent, seeings how I live and breath it everyday. You are so full of crap it's coming out your ears if you think that rifle that you posted isn't anything but a CZ.
But, don't go away cause this thread has become quite interesting. God only know what you'll pull from the purple starfish next [Confused]
 
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Normally I don't get involved in this drama stuff. But Axel, I'll tell you what. Here's your chance to redeem yourself and be done with all these attacks on your credibility. It happens I live about ten miles west of Rochester Hills. Whadyasay we meet, and you show me the rifle. Let's make it Jerry's Gunshop there in Rochester. Or D&D Guns in Clawson. Your choice. I'll bring my digital camera and Ann of Aspen Hill Farm (a co-worker of mine and regular on A-R) will post the photo for us. Afterwards, I'll buy you coffee and we'll talk guns.

That would be a pretty simple solution to all this.

Otherwise, you are going to have a real hard time explaining what Buffalo Buster found!
 
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Pecos,

Why stop? This is way too much fun. You know that we don't have anything else to do. [Wink] Wait! I need to go shower. I'm going bow hunting this morning. Gotta get this post done.

Axel,

OK. Here are the two photos. There are a couple of glaring problems that I want you to explain. See if you can figure them out and come up with something plausible. Everyone else will see them real fast. This should be funny.

Drumroll.........

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Please stop and reveal who you really are. You have played around with us far too long. I'm going to start guessing who you really are. Finally figured out who BBBabbler is. You may be tougher.
 
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Longbob,

I think I know who BBBabler is and BBBabler's postings are no different to who BBBabler represents. The postings are consistent.

If Axel is a member under another name, then the member is a child molester just as BBBabler's posts reveal the member he represents. With the Axel handle that is easy to recognise by the rifle pictures. In Australian prisons they are known as Rock Spiders. The basis of reference is children. You can see how it fits. In an earlier posting I mentioned to the Axel handle about molesting children and Rock Spiders.....but he/it/she avoided.....

Mike

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Longbob, well I suppose you are referring to the exibition grade stock in this picture. The other picture shows the hunting stock.

Casey, to answer regarding what kind of wood the stock on the first picture is made of, it's AAA English walnut.

Mike375, you seem to be obsessed with child molesters. You also seem to know a lot about the goings on inside of prisons. Why is that? BBBabbler is extremely preoccupied with homosexual encounters. Is there a "connection"?

Longbob, if you tell me who BBBabbler is, I'll tell you who I am.

Axel
 
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Axel handle posted:

"Longbob, if you tell me who BBBabbler is, I'll tell you who I am."

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We all know who you are, Axel. Your a POS phoney. [Mad]
 
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Axel,

You haven't told the truth yet. What makes you believe that if I tell you who BBBabbler is that you will come clean?

Are you going to give up yet? You didn't answer either of the two obvious problems with your photos that you sent me. You did recognize that you are trying to pawn off two different rifles by saying that one is the "hunting" stock and the other is the "exhibition" stock. How foolish can one be? No-one switches stocks at random. Barrels maybe. Not stocks. Either way, I prefer the second CZ to the first.

The second obvious problem. Rob wanted you to post a picture of the muzzle so he could see if it was a big bore. You complied? BS! Look at the date on the picture. 4-17-2001. Where did you lift these two pictures? Don't attempt to say that your neighbor's camera has the wrong date set. Which leads us to the third problem.

If you did take these pictures (we both know you didn't), why didn't you take the picture of the rifle, you, and the "Pecos Arse" sign??? Heck, I would have been satisfied with a "Longbob is an Arse" sign!

I offered to post the pictures for you for only one reason. The members of this site know that I would post them just as you sent them to me and no monkey business. Not that the other members that posted for you did either. But when you have several people with credibility putting up your stuff, all of the pressure is on you to perform. And you have failed miserably.

One of the things that you have accomplished is that you have become the forum's number one whipping boy. I would like to let you in on something. The forum doesn't need people like you to make everyone else look good. Accurate Reloading has more high quality members that contribute on a daily basis than all the other hunting and firearms related websites combined. Fortunately, people like you are ferreted out very quickly. Thank goodness!
 
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There is also quite a difference in the blue jobs. One is a high gloss rifle and the other looks like it was blued with a tooth brush and cold blue.

Longbob, you're dreaming if you think you'll ever get any definitive proof out of Axel/Todd E.

The guy is a POS imposter from the word go. He can cut and paste pictures and email them till hell freezes over. And none of us have the time or desire to research where the little phoney stole the next one.

He's had MORE than enough chances. He is a total phoney and just getting off wasting our time, doing what Todd E originally did...researching just enough info off the internet to give his BS just enough credibility to make the gullible THINK he might know something.

Axel is a lying POS who knows nothing. End of story.
 
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I know I have been gone for awhil... school, fiance, and fiances med school started this year.
take a look at this picture I found on AHRs site.... http://www.hunting-rifles.com/S550.htm
 
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It keeps getting better and better... LMAOROTF!!!!!

JAG
 
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and this.... http://www.hunting-rifles.com/S550DGR.htm also on AHR. That was nice of Axel letting them use pictures of his rifle.
 
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I am not sure why, but this seems appropriate for this thread.

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Gentlemen, I admit that I borrowed the picture from Claude Gatewood's website. He stocked the rifle for me. I do not know where you are getting this 500 caliber stuff from. The rifle is a 450 Ackely magnum.

If you do not believe me email or call Claude and ask him. He will tell you that he stocked that rifle for Axel Dempel.

Axel

Why would we think that is a 500 AHE? Because if you put your mouse pointer on the picture on the Gatewood website a caption comes up "CZ Mag Action Barreled in 500 AHE. I wonder how these honest gunmakers feel about someone taking credit for and claiming ownership of their fine rifles? You are a very sad individual.
Sean

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