Ahhh ok, makes sense now, seem as I would have thought that it would have just been called a 4-bore due to the fact that that's almost the exact size that a true 4-bore is supposed to be...

Pat

Sorry old man, it's actually a joke, named for a fellow named Roy Vincent, who I believe is a friend of the site owners.

I noticed in the description for this forum that it was for anything 'from 375 up to 1.008 Vincent Buffallo thumper'. Can anyone tell me about this calibre at all, has anyone got some stats on it or fired it? Is it a very old cal? Can you still get it today? Is it blackpowder? What's the recoil like? What sort of muzzle energy and velocity do you get out of it? How heavy are the projectiles for it? Is it only in Double Rifles or can you get it is bolt-actions as well? And finally, can you still buy them and if yes, how much for?

Pat.

Wrong.

The 1.008 Vincent (actually, CIP lists it as the "1.008 Vincent Belted Rimless Magnum Nitro Express Train Big Bad Kills Anything On Contact Don't Be A Girly Man But You Probably Can't Handle It Even If You Aren't JS") was chambered in a one-off and nearly mythical rifle weighing twenty three and three quarters pounds. The Big Vincent (known to its paisanos as "Jimmy") threw an eight ounce Coca-Cola bottle sized antimony hardened lead/tin alloyed slug at volleyball velocities and was rumored to nearly knock elephants into very brief periods of annoyance.

Vincent Veganhuntington, the only man to have actually used this Brobdingnagian beast of a caliber against dangerous game, was unfortunately shot to death in a California condominium rest room by a MAC-10 wielding, albeit incorruptible, boxer before he could publish the results of his foolish efforts in next month's issue of Sports Outdoor American Riflehunter and Ammo Shooter Safari Man African Magnum magazine.

I have his unpublished manuscript and it will stop the blood from flowing if read too quickly. You really don't want to know.

Yep, that is the same story I heard........

Damn, that's funny MR!

As I recall, several years back Saeed mentioned that Lothar Walther makes a 1.008" barrel, and he had planned on making up a wildcat to use such a barrel. I don't know what derailed the project, but I think it had something to do with the fact that they couldn't find anyone who was willing to shoot it. It may also have been that the 700 NE proved to be enough gun.

We have the equivalant case in the 4 bore that we are going to get barrels built for at Badger. They will be .998 to 1.000. Here is picture of 4bore case we made, second from right, and the belted version, the 1000HE,on the right..Ed.

Saeed did publish a photo of the Vincent a couple of years ago. I believe that it was formed from a 20mm somethingorother. The difficulty for the rifle builders was getting an action big enough to hold it. That makes me believe that it was longer than Ed's 4-bore . . . and there is also the question of who was silly enough to pull the trigger on the damned thing. It wouldn't be me!

Ed that 4-bore is a great looking case mate
What sort of shotloads do you reckon it could throw?

Karl.

Karl- Most folks will shoot that 2500 gr bullet pictured
at about 1200 fps.But if you can hold the gun down, you could get it up to about 2700 fps.Should zip out 6 oz of shot at 12-1700 fps.
Those are the same cases I showed picture of over on Nitro forum in the mammoth thread. We should be able to get barrels this winter, and keep working to find actions
I will have all the equipment and swages built,to make 4 bore brass from 20mm this winter.Ed

I thought most 4 bores shot 1600-1850 grain projectiles, not 2500 grain. These huge mammoth rifles seem to be re-gaining some popularity, how many .900+ cal rifles are there out there at the moment (military doesn't count).

Pat

Your right all the old ones used lighter balls or hollow
base bullets. That 2500 gr one is one we built to put
in the case to show, but when we start testing we will hollow base it and start with lower weight, like 1700 gr. And cast some round balls also.Ed.

WOW
Lets se the contraption that shoots these artillery shells.

Cheers,

Andr�

On the left is a 700NE





On the left is a 375 H&H

Saeed-About like a 40 mm necked down.That should make
fellows who like necked big bore cartridges estatic.
That one should do about 70,000 ft lbs at a full load!!Ed.

Our calculations are as follows:

15,000 grain bullet at 2300 fps.

This means 176,239 ft.lbs of energy!

Walter says he will make sure the obituary of the first one who shoots it is published wordwide for posterity!

Any taker?

I was figuring a 5000 gr bullet 3 inches long, twice the length of the 2500 gr one we built for 1000HE or 4 bore.At 2600 fps.How long is the bullet in the picture?..Ed.

I wouldn't use that rifle against the biggest terrorist stronghold in Baghdad. That is the rifle the elephant will use to kill me--and my automobile.