I see muzzle brakes called suppressors and to me a suppressor is a silencers and muzzle brakes as recoil reducers.. see this quite often on AR and by knowable posters?? Am I wrong??

In my opinion you are correct but opinions are like a-holes everyone has one and some of them stink

I’ve seen the “improper use” of the names and I also think you are correct in your thinking.

Ray, you're correct.

I think that the confusion comes from the people who buy the semi-auto rifles with "Flash Suppressors" on the muzzle. They just shorten the name to "Suppressor"

I have been asked to regulate doubles many times and they considered that sighting them in. with a file. another mistake of the Kings English! but Ive been told that I mutilate the Kings English by Saeed and that I only speak Texas and that's a fact: My Spanish is as bad as my Texan and I do mutilate the Kings English I think! Getten old and cant hardly talk! might be a better configeratiin!

Suppressors are a noise reduction device and muzzle breaks are a noise enhancing device. Both reduce recoil.

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Originally posted by wildmansix:
Suppressors are a noise reduction device and muzzle breaks are a noise enhancing device. Both reduce recoil.

Exactly. But there are some "exceptions", for example Magnus muzzle brake by Victrix Italy. It actually reduce sound pressure on shooter a little. But I can't speak for bystanders ;-)

BTW I have their silencer and it is crazy effective. You can shoot full loads of 338 LM easy without ear protection.

Lapua factory load with 250gr Scenar: https://youtu.be/jrASGdvHdcc

Jiri

The word 'suppression' and its noun 'suppressor' could apply to muzzle brakes with the meaning of suppressing recoil.

Many of the suppressors we use on our rifles do have built in muzzle brakes so the suppressor reduces both recoil and sound.
The Gunworks suppressor I have on my 7mm WSM (22" barrel) has a stainless steel built in muzzle brake, good for 10,000 rounds and definitely does a great job on reducing recoil as well as reducing noise to that of a 22 rimfire magnum.

A muzzle brake is a one piece uni. A Suppressor has a series of baffles inside the 'can'. A suppressor does not have holes drilled through it the way a brake does.

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The word 'suppression' and its noun 'suppressor' could apply to muzzle brakes with the meaning of suppressing recoil.

This is an unnecessary obfuscation that adds nothing to understanding the difference between the two devices.

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Originally posted by Fjold:
Ray, you're correct.

I think that the confusion comes from the people who buy the semi-auto rifles with "Flash Suppressors" on the muzzle. They just shorten the name to "Suppressor"

Hirarm Maxim invented/patented the first commercial muzzle device to reduce sound that attached to the muzzle.

He called this invention a silencer. The patent clearly says silencer and is from 1909.

The Maxim design was different than modern suppressors, as it used curved vanes to force muzzle gasses to spin in little vortices inside the device while they cooled. This reduced their pressure.

This design was expensive to manufacture and causes the silencer to heat up quickly. Modern designs use baffles to slow down gasses without absorbing too much heat.

Another feature of Maxim’s silencer was it’s off-center attachment to a rifle barrel. By placing the centerline of the suppressor below the muzzle of the firearm, stock iron sights on the weapon could still be used (concentric suppressors typically block the view through the sights).

Anyway, that is the grandfather tech for “suppressors.” The guy who on inter turn called them silencers.

Muscle breaks done correctly do reduce felt recoil.

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Originally posted by ggruber:
A muzzle brake is a one piece uni. A Suppressor has a series of baffles inside the 'can'. A suppressor does not have holes drilled through it the way a brake does.

And there are suppressors over muzzle brakes too.

To my ears a muzzle brake is the opposite of a suppressor!

IMHO the only place a muzzle brake is ok is on a 50 BMG sniper rifle

The modern generation is quite unaware of proper English, spelling, punctuation, meanings, usage, history, and practically everything else that used to be taught in our schools. The internet, especially YouTube are an cesspool of uneducated rule breakers. My humble opinion, of course.