We are allowed to shoot foxes that threaten our livestock. So I keep a gun handy. Currently the gun I have been working with is my 458 win mag, so that is the gun I keep handy.
Fox walked up on me, I was in camo and not moving so he didn't see me. Cross hairs on the chest, squeeze. 20 yds.
I developed this load specifically to shoot whitetails with authority, but without a lot of meat damage. Bullet is a hornady 350 gr rnfp at 2150. Very accurate load.
I expected maybe a quarter size hole all the way through.
Um, wow. Right side of neck gone down to the spine. Right shoulder gone down to the chest cavity. Right front leg was there, but in the wrong place,held only by skin.
The fox was DRT, which is great. But a lot more damage than I was expecting.
Bullet exited far back in the stomach. I couldn't find it in the grass.

My guess is that you will have about the same result on a whitetail!

Frank

I have shot some deer with the Hornady 350gr RN in my 45/70 at 1890fps, and several deer and several wild pigs, with it in my 450 No2 double at 2330 fps. If you hit one in the shoulder[s] it can mess it up, but it is not that bad if you hit them just behind the shoulder.

I have shot a coyote with it as well.

Smaller thin skinned animals are easily "blown up".

That bullet has a very high antimony content. Consequently, it does not open at very low (<1500fps) velocities. Also (as any high antimony bullet) it fails fractile when you exceed a certain speed....and you certainly exceeded that speed.

Lots of useful info there, thanks. It looks like mine is operating at a speed right in the middle of your two. I would expect to perform accordingly.
Ever got a shoulder hit with the 45-70?

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Frank

I have shot some deer with the Hornady 350gr RN in my 45/70 at 1890fps, and several deer and several wild pigs, with it in my 450 No2 double at 2330 fps. If you hit one in the shoulder[s] it can mess it up, but it is not that bad if you hit them just behind the shoulder.

I have shot a coyote with it as well.

Smaller thin skinned animals are easily "blown up".

I'm wondering if there isn't a difference between your flat points, which would seem to be intended for the 45/70, and 450NE No2's round noses, which are intended for the 458wm.

Might want to switch to the round noses.

JPK

I emailed hornady about it. He said they could be used interchangeably. I think he said the velocity limit was 2400fps, but I'd have to look at my emails again to be sure. I knew the ceiling was higher than what I was looking at, so that was all I needed.

The only 350gr Hornady 458 bullet I have recovered was from a wild pig shot with my 450 No2 at @2330fps.

I was stalking pigs and was trying to sneak up on some about 70 yards away, when I noticed two others at about 45 or 50 yards.

One had seen me and was facing me head on.

I shot him, swing over a few feed and shot his buddy broadside.

Both went right down. Then I took off running after the other two.

I reloaded on the run with 500gr Hornaday Softs. The other pigs crossed my path and I stopped and shot one at @30 35 yards. He to went right down.

The first pig I shot facing me was hit in the face just to the right of center.
Thje bullet went through the skull and down the neck into the chest.

It was expanded and a little knarled up, but it did a great job.

I was under the impression that the flat nose is softer than the round nose. You usually only see flat nose listed for 45-70 and round nose for the 458's in loading books.

Stubert: That's because Hornady is nervous about folks using the round nose in a Marlin tube magazine.