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I now own 3 ruger 375 and only one 375 h&h. Just bought a second 375 ruger alaskan. Who sells or custom loads 375 besides Hornady. Want to get some 375 ruger loaded with barnes tsx, swift a-frames and north fork. Mike | ||
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Sometimes good things happen unexpectedly I know Nosler makes great loads the 375 Ruger and think Norma is also now making it. Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship Phil Shoemaker Alaska Master guide FAA Master pilot NRA Benefactor www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com | |||
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Why not just load your own??? Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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Nosler makes 375 Ruger brass, which is more expensive than the excellent Hornady brass. Still, the Nosler brass can be used right out of the box for hunting loads and would be a good way to start reloading. On bullets, some of the best all purpose bullets would be: 1. 265gn GSC-HV, with a BC of .360 2. 250gn TTSX, with a BC of .424 3. 235gn CEB ER, with a BC of .337 4. 200gn GSC HV, with a BC of .306 5. 270gn Swift A-Frame, BC of .349 6. 260gn Nosler Partition, BC of .314 7. 320gn CEB Low-Drag Hunting/expanding, BC of .700 For Africa, I might go with the 265gn HV, for North America, the 250TTSX is a lot of bang for buck. (Number 7 enters the picture if hunting is planned beyond 400 yards.) Even though I've been a .338 medium bore guy for over thirty years, the 375Ruger is changing the way I think about all-around hunting. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Mike, I've got some factory Hornady ammo left from when I had mine. | |||
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I have a 375 ultra, and 375 H&H..love 375s!!! DRSS Member | |||
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I currently have 3 375H&H's. At one time in the very near past I had 6 but figured that was a little much. I actually took 2 Mdl 70's thru So Africa to Zimbabwe once and was not aware of the ' no 2 of same caliber law' really did some pleading to get by with them. I know very little about the 375 Ruger but see no reason to replace any of mine with one. Is it magic and you can never miss with it? I know it's shorter ,but so what. The 3 I have are accurate beyond belief and are proven in Africa on game. Some things are kinda like vanilla ice cream,they just don't need any 'improvement'. SCI Life Member NRA Patron Life Member DRSS | |||
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True But a left handed ruger costs $699 @ CDNN. A left handed CZ 550 in 375 H&H is 2K and needs to be sent to Wayne at AHR to function to its potential. Mike | |||
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I've stopped eating ice cream but I appreciate the two comments. They are true today and illustrate something that was true thirty years ago, too. Back before the 375RUger existed, the 375H&H still cost alot more. When I bought my first 338 I was looking at a Model70 375 for $550 or a Model70 338WM for $350. Since it was an all purpose rifle, I went with the 338 and it legally took buffalo where I was. It had smack on hartebeest and roan out to 300 yards with the old Nosler Partition 250 grain. (At the time there was a lull in Nosler Partiion production for .375 and I had watched some friends' Sierra 300gn .375 lose their cores, so that also affected the choice. Also, back then we were using a couple grains more of 4350 so we were probably getting over 2700fps.) The point in this rambling? The 375Ruger cas come along and basically does what the 338WM did in bang for buck, but does it with even more bang than the 338. In fact, the extra powder capacity of the Ruger allows it to get H&H ballistics in a barrel that is 2-3 inches shorter. Lighter rifle and standard production actions equal lower prices. I would certainly not want to trade in a nice H&H. It is a great round. But when a person sees what is available as a 375Ruger 23" African or 20" Alaskan they can appreciate the overall achievement of Ruger. Sort of like coming out with a quality French Vanilla at generic prices. +-+-+-+-+-+-+ "A well-rounded hunting battery might include: 500 AccRel Nyati, 416 Rigby or 416 Ruger, 375Ruger or 338WM, 308 or 270, 243, 223" -- Conserving creation, hunting the harvest. | |||
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Having had a bunch of 375 H+H rifles I can say without reservation it it a great round. But a standard Ruger 375 Alaskan is basically we used to pay thousands to build. So I'm pretty sold on them. Phil Shoemaker : "I went to a .30-06 on a fine old Mauser action. That worked successfully for a few years until a wounded, vindictive brown bear taught me that precise bullet placement is not always possible in thick alders, at spitting distances and when time is measured in split seconds. Lucky to come out of that lesson alive, I decided to look for a more suitable rifle." | |||
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Perhaps a better question is why the current Win M70 or CZ 550 chambered in .375 H&H cost 2-3 times the price of the current Ruger M77 chambered in 375 Ruger? Jim "Life's hard; it's harder if you're stupid" John Wayne | |||
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don't know anything about current CZ's-but as far as Winchester is concerned the difference is quality control. "The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane." Mark Twain TANSTAAFL www.savannagems.com A unique way to own a piece of Africa. DSC Life NRA Life | |||
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The price difference between the ruger and winchester is $300-$400 on msrp for a right handed rifle. THe ruger i have been buying are the discontinued model being sold at cdnn for $699. The regular guide gun sells for $1099 msrp. I don't like the muzzle brake and the paddle stock on the new gun. The pricing difference is probably cost of production - ruger 375 uses a regular action. Ruger probably makes 50-100 times as many regular actions (30.06/270 ect) as winchester makes larger magnum actions. CZ just skins left handed shooters alive by charging $600-$700 more for the identical same rifle they sell to right handed shooters. Mike | |||
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I was lucky. I just bought a BNIB LH CZ 550 Safari .375 off of Gunbroker (from a dealer) for $1,200.00. I'm adding a Ken Rucker "Bump Buster" hydraulic recoil reduction system, and then it will go off to Wayne at AHR. When it is all said and done, it will be well over 2k. | |||
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Good deal - Wayne is a great gunsmith - professional and on time. I have had 4 rifles from him - 3 cz (375, 458 lott, .223) and a ruger (30/06). He is upgrading my 375 H&H - new wood and refinishing (4 safaris I beat the gun up pretty good). I am also going to send him my sako 85 in 9.3x62 to get iron signs and a sling band. The rugers will go to him too in time to get glass bedded and triggers worked on. But for right now they shoot much better than me out of the box. One thing to keep in mind with the ruger alaskan - it is a very light carrying gun. A delight to carry. Also it is one tough gun - I left it in the rain for days, dragged it across a stone runway, dropped it 200 plus ft down a hill ( on soft alaskan sponge stuff). It looks brand new. A non laminated wood stocks would have been scratched to hell and warped. Mike | |||
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DoubleTap Ammunition loads the 235 TSX, 250 TTSX, 260 Accubond, and my favorite the 270 TSX. Until issues with shipping to Alaska, I ordered directly from them. They have a website and toll free number listed on it. My experiences were, good ammo and good people to deal with. --------------------------------------------------------------
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