I just saw on midway that they have 500gr Nosler partition and Solids coming soon in .458 cal. This is the first I had heard of these bullets coming out. Anyone else have any info on them.

One thing I did notice was the price, $105 per 25 or the partitions and $77 per 25 for the solids. Seemed kind of spendy to me.

that's one way to keep the riff-raff from buying them.

And most of the rest of us as well.

Rich
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Swift A-Frames instead?

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Originally posted by Thebear_78:$105 per 25

You can get overall better bullets for waaay cheaper then that! Northforks may pickup even more sales if they are priced at that

Her is 3 views of a Nosler pertion from a 416 Rigby (Federal factory load) recovered from a Biso it hit a rib going and on the other side









I would not want to hit Major bone with this bullet

Sure that wasn't $105.00 per 250 ct?

$4.00 per bullet is a lot for a production bullet in .458

I have used Noslers for years on some pretty big stuff, mostly buffalo and they never failed me..I have seen some as pictured and it appears the bullet tumbled and squashed the base a bit, but it still looks about like most of the Barnes Xs I have seen..I have seen Nosler and most other bullets with the front completely blown off, but they blew off inside the animal and the base made an exit hole, but it killed very well indeed...

Problem is lots of folks imagine bullet failure and some don't know what constitutes bullet failure. You shoot any bullet and you will get some strange results from time to time..I have seen monolithics in a horseshoe shape, or with the front blown off. I have seen all shapes and sizes with recovered bullets. I have recovered most of them.

The Nosler pictured is an almost perfect expansion, a mushroom, the lead mushed up the inside of the animal and it stopped on the off side skin, so whats the problem.

This is just my opinion, but bullet performance is deemed to be good if it kills quickly. It doesn't matter what the bullet looks like afterwards. If it has shed its jacket, lost petals, doesn't end up like a perfect mushroom, whatever. If it kills quickly its a good bullet.
Sometimes it is only a matter of choosing the right style and weight in a given caliber for the intended game. Many failures are because people choose bullets intended for smaller game and use them for something they were not designed to handle.

A picture of the Nosler 400 grain 416 bullets the one on the left is from testt media ( wet News print) the one on the right is from an sian Buffalo. The one on the right (Asian Buffalo) ruptured the rear jacket at the partition and the lead flowed forward and is .172 inch below the rea of the jacket







Another view

I don't know. Personally I am not a big Nosler fan but there are so many out there, one must conclude they make decent bullets. That said, doesn't Nosler know that asking four bucks a bullet is what killed the Speer African Grand Slams? It's a bullet, for crying out loud. Not a loaded round. Non reloaders pay just a little more than that for LOADED .416 Rigby rounds and they bitch about that. GOOD LUCK on selling those! I'll be sticking to North Forks, A- Frames, TSX's, and Woodleigh's.

Geronimo

Those prices do not make sense, not just to us consumers, but to the maker also. Why bother making something and offering it for sale if you can't be competitive?

BTW, I feel the same way about the Nosler rifles and loaded ammunition. The executives at Nosler are smoking dope if they think their stuff, which is pretty unremarkable, is worth those prices.

Nosler is indeed offering a 500 gr Solid and PT in .458 cal. They are also going to introduce a .375 cal 300 gr Solid and 300 gr AB.
Also going to have a .338 cal 250 gr AB.

JD338

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Originally posted by mrlexma:
Those prices do not make sense, not just to us consumers, but to the maker also. Why bother making something and offering it for sale if you can't be competitive?

BTW, I feel the same way about the Nosler rifles and loaded ammunition. The executives at Nosler are smoking dope if they think their stuff, which is pretty unremarkable, is worth those prices.

Hate to pile on with the rest of the dogs but did anyone check out the macro photos of the Nosler Custom Brass on their website??!!?

Was that stuff made by cavemen with axes or what?!?!? WHOA!!

Hello,
Found this if your still interested.
http://www.nosler.com/images/calendar/catalog08.pdf

Page 5, Solids.

Sorry, thats page 4.

This is probably another case of Midway over-charging/pricing. They'll most likely be much cheaper, and on a par with all the other Partitions, elsewhere.

Is it possible that it's a misprint??

I have to say I am disappointed with their solids. Looks just like a Barnes only it costs more. I was hoping for something along the Speer African Grand Slam line.

465H&H

I have shot a lot of Cape buffalo with the 400 gr. 40 caliber Nosler and yes it does sometimes blow the lead out, so what! Have you ever seen a Barnes X from a buffalo, it looks exactly the same.

I have broke both shoulders on a big cape buff on 2 ocassions with the Nosler..

The pictured bullets are not failures IMO, your surmising what would happed if you hit bone, it would smash them in my experience with that bullet.

I have a number of recovered 400 gr. .416 Noslers from buffalo and they look about the same except most did not peel back quite that far, only on ocassion like breaking really heavy bone.