Man it is awesome. Lat time I had a case that size in my hand was a while back and it was a 338 Lapua Mag. This is so much bigger looking with that fat bullet on top. I finally got my hand on the brass and bullet I ordered a while back. Haven't even got the dies yet. So what do you do when you crave to see an assembled round.
You stick a 222rem fl. die i the press take out the expander rod and use the hole in the bottom of the die as a seater, right?
Going to use it, this coming fall on elephant, Buffalo and plainsgame. ouha! Better get started with the shooting soon if I am to get used to the kick of that big ............ !
Just thought I'd let you know. Or is it more like: "Had to go and tell someone". Funny.. a man of 40 can turn into acting just like a little boy who has got a new toy. But isn't this what it is all about?

Niels, you are in for some fun. I love reloading my 416 Rigby. If you are using Vihta N165, I use 102 grains (I think that is 6,61 grammes)and CCI 250 primers with the Hornady 400 soft point for an average velocity of 2370 fps. 103 grains will puts me almost right on the 2400 fps mark. A word to the wise, unless you have a Lee Factory crimp, be very careful about overcrimping and getting shoulder bulge. I suggest you don't crimp at all in the beginning, or just very lightly if you feel you must.

Is it important to crimp. Will the case not hold the bullet, during recoil, without the crimp?
You wouldn't have some reduced loads for vitv. 165 and 350gr. bullets would you?

Niels,

Yes, it is important to crimp the bullet into the case of a heavy recoiling DGR cartridge like the .416 Rigby.

But, as Wink says, don't get carried away with the crimping, or you'll buckle the shoulder of the case. Everyone loses a few cases from time to time, but with the Rigby, a lost case equals minus US$2.00 in the bank account!

Start by seating your bullets and crimping them in two steps. And I agree that it's best to start with less crimp and work towards more. A roll crimp of 0.005-0.008" (sorry about the Imperial units of measure) will do nicely.

And yes, as we get older, we still need our toys! That may not be what it's all about, but it's a pretty big part of the pursuit of happiness. I just wish the toys didn't keep getting so damned expensive!

Good shooting and good hunting!

When you hold a fist full of 416 Rigbys in your hand you know you've got ahold of something! Truely heartwarming!

[QUOTE] I just wish the toys didn't keep getting so damned expensive!QUOTE]

The older I get the more I realize that the only real difference between men and boys, is the cost of their toys.

Thanks for the lessons on crimping guys. It seems like it is time to learn something new again. I have a Redding seater for it. I suppose that is ok, or should I get a LEE factory crimp die (What is the difference?)

Actually Niels I have never tried any loads with lighter weight (less than 400 grains) jacketed or solid bullets. I do however shoot the lead cast bullet (approx. 350 grains) from the RCBS mould over the French Vectan powder Tubal 2000. If this powder is available in Denmard then I can send my reloading data for the cast bullet. There were several threads in the Cast Bullet section of AR in the past so you might want to try a search there as well. Concerning loads in general for the .416 Rigby there is a truckload in different areas of AR, just launch a search.

Sorry about the mispelling of Denmark. But I wanted to add anyway that YES BY ALL MEANS GET THE LEE FACTORY CRIMP. It changes everything with this particular cartridge. After you have ruined a few cases with the standard roll crimp die you will try to get one anyway. The Johanssen people in Germany show it in their catalogue.

What is it with the Lee die that makes it so much better than the others?

I crimp with the rcbs seater works fine.............love the rigby.

Niels, I think a look at the LeePrecision web site may give you more information than I can give here but, for at least one beneficial aspect of the Lee Factory Crimp, the pressure it exerts on the case is almost 100% lateral which means it doesn't force down the case neck to make the crimp. There is therefore almost zero risk of pushing down the neck and forcing the shoulder to bulge out. This also means that the case overall length will not be affected by the crimping process. To cut short my preference for the Lee die, it reduces considerably the risk of: 1) ruining an expensive case and 2) causing a shoulder bulge which, even if not apparent to the naked eye, will not chamber or will cause a headspace problem. This said, I use the classic roll crimp RCBS die for lots of calibers with total satisfaction, I just like the Lee Factory crimp better for the 416 Rigby.

Anoterh vote for the Lee factory crimp.....jorge