Interesting. Both this forum and HuntAmerica's Reloading forum regularly bemoan the lack of a readily available .375 H&H shootalike in standard length. That particular clone has been around for generations as the 9.3x64 but neither rifles nor ammunition are readily available. Perhaps the need isn't so great after all. Sarge
Posts: 2690 | Location: Lakewood, CA. USA | Registered: 07 January 2001
Sarge, I doubt that there is any great need for most of the calibers we have...
I love the 9.3's and shot both the 9.3x64, 9.3x62 and 10.75x68 along with the 7x57 and 8x57, but we have factory calibers that will do the same thing for the most part..
My point being I don't NEED any of them, it just came down to WANT...
I will have to state that the 9.3x64 is a wonder in a standard lenth action that matches and to some extent betters the grand old 375 H&H, but you would be splittin hairs on that one.....
the 9.3x62 in my mind is one of the finest calibers I have ever used and I hold it in high esteem, but again I wouldn't declare it a better round than our 338 Win.
I suspect we could dump most calibers in the ocean and keep the 30-06 and 416 and never look back....
Steyr, Blaser and Sauer 202 are available in 9.3x64. I think the main problem is, most people who want one, want it for big game and fear caliber restrictions. Now with Nosler partitions andd Swifts and Barnes this caliber should really catch on.
The 9.3x62 is much more popular, IMHO its the most You can get out of a �06 type case.
I think nearly every European arms maker chambers this round. Tikka, Sako, CZ, Steyr, Blaser, SIG, Sauer, Voere and the many 98 clones ( Kragujevac ) or 98 remakes ( Favorit ).
Good shooting! H
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Posts: 828 | Location: Europe | Registered: 13 June 2001
In the USA, Sauer does not list the 202 as being in 9.3 x 64. Perhaps they do not import it in that caliber. I will have to check into Voere - maybe that would be a good substitute.
Posts: 18352 | Location: Salt Lake City, Utah USA | Registered: 20 April 2002
While I don't have the specifics on this, I think it would be a simple conversion to have just about any available 9.3x62 bolt rifle re-chambered for the 9.3x64 - you might lose one round mag capacity or maybe not with a little filing...
But, you must be able to justify that cost and work for something less than 200 fps gain.
Wow! I never realized there could be so much dialogue about an obsolete/redundant round like the 9.3x64!(tongue in cheek) I'll bet that if you contact Martini and Hagn in Cranbrook, B.C., they could build a custom rifle for less than what a Blaser or Steyr sell for these days-and it would be built for you, not everybody else.
quote:Originally posted by ALF: No european gunmakers manufacture standard off the shelf rifles in 9,3x64 anymore. They can be had from custom and proprietary gunmakers.
In 9,3x62 the makers are Tikka and SAKO, Steyer, Mauser in their "model original" now under the SIGARMS banner, SAUER, Blaser, CZ and Heym. ( and others that i have forgotten to mention i'm sure!)
Jagdwaffen Fuchs (austria) the makers of that horrid looking double barrel bolt gun chamber for 9,3x64.
As a note the original Brennecke firm, although not widely known still exists today,; the arms making part of the firm was revived by Wilhelm Brennecke's great grandson a Dr Peter Mank.
They still make Brennecke rifles in 9,3x64 but only on a custom basis.
The only ammo manufacturer making 9,3x64 ammo on a large commercial scale is RWS.
You can still order the Blaser R93 in 9,3x64! The Sauer 90 is still available ,too.
quote:Originally posted by Oldsarge: Interesting. Both this forum and HuntAmerica's Reloading forum regularly bemoan the lack of a readily available .375 H&H shootalike in standard length. That particular clone has been around for generations as the 9.3x64 but neither rifles nor ammunition are readily available. Perhaps the need isn't so great after all. Sarge
The reason why the 9,3x64 Brenneke is nearly dead is that in many african countries 9,5mm is the minimum caliber to hunt the BIGFIVE! Although the 9,x64 shoots more precisly than the 375H&H it is to die.
The Frankonia (Favorit) Safari model is available in 9.3x64 Brenneke. Favorit rifles are current production models built on wartime 98 actions of proper quality. The Safari rifles are approximately $1000, and can be imported through any dealer with a Frankonia account. (I have two Sako mannlichers in 9.3x62 that are very high quality. I am expecting a Zoli (Italy) carbine in 9.3x62 and may also pick up a Favorit in this caliber to find out the level of quality)