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03 November 2009, 00:14
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03 November 2009, 01:30
jsl3170interesting bases. who did them?
03 November 2009, 01:39
nordrsetaThat is going to be one fine rifle. Thanks for sharing.
03 November 2009, 09:19
Idaho SharpshooterI think this reinforces what many have said over the past several years about the CZ. It's like a Mustang GT. You can enjoy as is, or go the mild custom route like AHR specializes in (although Wayne can make it into whatever you would like), or get it turned into a GT500KR and have Shelby stick up to 800HP under the hood.
This example might be closer to a John Force AA/FC version.
Very well done, should be a joy to shoot or just admire.
Rich
03 November 2009, 19:43
gwindrider1Nice to see a CZ without that damn "Billboard" sized stamping on the receiver. Please post another pic when you get the stock done!
04 November 2009, 02:49
Rub LineWhen the billboard is ground off, what do you do with the serial number? Do you grind it and re-stamp it? Relocate it? or just grind around it?
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04 November 2009, 04:35
new_guyLooks good!
As far as you've come, you should also weld up that piece that fills the void in the receiver left by the old safety.
I would also suggest welding up / "blinding" the rear guard screw... neither will cost much, but will add greatly to the appearance IMO.
04 November 2009, 05:11
Sendero300Now that's nice...

Sendero300>>>===TerryP
04 November 2009, 16:26
Stryker225Never seen that much metal removed from a CZ receiver.

Looks nice though!
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05 November 2009, 02:25
Michael RobinsonGreat looking piece of work.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
13 November 2009, 16:40
Allen MartinWell time for that update , intro and a detailed description of the project before us .....
After building mostly Custom Flintlock Rifles it's a really nice switch to do a few bolt rifles ...I need to build as well as finish a few of these projects very soon ..... to dang busy !!! sign.......
And this project has come a long way from where it started ..
The CZ550 ,416-Rigby that Mr. Hanson wanted me to do a "makeover" on ...... so after many phone calls/e-mails and this is where we are so far ...
The action was tig-welded at the rear ring base and filled that goofy looking notch ... the bases re-milled to accept standard Talley 1/2" bases so that the individual can use low-to-high , quick release or permanent rings ...
The transformation is unbelievable !!!
Then the rest of the action was milled to remove the stupid looking letters , adding the Ed Lapour 3-position safely , Talley bolt handle , Jim Wisner floorplate as well as the Jacobson AHR trigger .
The barrel was bobbed to about 22-1/2" and new NEGC Banded front sight installed as well as the barrel band sling swivel ....
All the metal work done by a local , unknown gunsmith who does great work .... I'm trying to lighten his work load without announcing who he is !!
Contact me if interested in having stuff like this done ...
Now the next step is for me to fit & bed it all into the Laminated stock , shape it into a 1920's British style stalking rifle , add recoil pad , checker and send the who thing to CS Sports for the metal & wood finishes ...
When the whole package is done I'll do a follow-up with fresh photos !!!
Thanks for the input from fellow members here on this site ... I lurk a lot more than I post ...
Hopefully I can change that as well !!
God bless !!
13 November 2009, 18:06
jro45The CZ550 is an excellant action with that claw extracter. I do not make any rifles but I have quite a few and one is the CZ550.
13 November 2009, 18:56
shootawayThe best improvement that can happen to the CZ's is for someone to make a one piece trigger guard and magazine assembly that is cartridge specific.After all these costly improvements are made,you still have a unreliable action in that the rounds are swimming around in the large magazine supported by a soft spring.The rifle may work fine when your are playing with it in your home but when you push it and use it under any stressful situation you'll see its faults.You would be better off with a Winchester or Ruger than any worked over CZ.A rifle has to load,eject, and feed easily and reliably anyplace any time.
13 November 2009, 20:28
jsl3170is that why so many PHs and game rangers swear by it shooaway?
13 November 2009, 21:07
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by jsl3170:
is that why so many PHs and game rangers swear by it shooaway?
I don't think PH's and game rangers are the ones spending thousands of dollars, every year, putting bullets down range with these rifles.
13 November 2009, 21:32
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by jsl3170:
is that why so many PHs and game rangers swear by it shooaway?
I don't think PH's and game rangers are the ones spending thousands of dollars, every year, putting bullets down range with these rifles.
georgie, there's LOTS of things real users of these rifles don't do, that you do.
13 November 2009, 22:51
Idaho Sharpshootershoofly, don't bother CZ! Couldn't help meself.
The Cape Buffalo I shot eleven months ago did not complain about being killed with a CZ. And I even used the set-trigger!!
Rich
13 November 2009, 23:40
CAS IIquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by jsl3170:
is that why so many PHs and game rangers swear by it shooaway?
I don't think PH's and game rangers are the ones spending thousands of dollars, every year, putting bullets down range with these rifles.
No, they're shooting at real live critters that could potentially kill them while you are blasting away at cardboard.
Don't make the mistake of assuming others are afflicted by your shortcomings.
14 November 2009, 00:14
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by CAS II:
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
quote:
Originally posted by jsl3170:
is that why so many PHs and game rangers swear by it shooaway?
I don't think PH's and game rangers are the ones spending thousands of dollars, every year, putting bullets down range with these rifles.
No, they're shooting at real live critters that could potentially kill them while you are blasting away at cardboard.
Don't make the mistake of assuming others are afflicted by your shortcomings.
Yeah right.I suppose if a rifle doesn't feed at the range,it will feed when your being charged.

14 November 2009, 00:21
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
shoofly, don't bother CZ! Couldn't help meself.
The Cape Buffalo I shot eleven months ago did not complain about being killed with a CZ. And I even used the set-trigger!!
Rich
Don't get me wrong,I think they make a good action and I really like it,however it's useless without a proper,snug, magazine stack of cartridges.
14 November 2009, 02:13
Idaho SharpshooterYou want a really big bore, like a 505 Gibbs here are your choices:
1. Ruger. Oops, don't even make an action big enough.
2. Winchester. Yeah, right.
3. CZ. Just buy one from the factory and customize to suit.
All of my CZ's feed rounds from the magazine. I even checked earlier this afternoon, and the 505 Gibbs will feed empty cases. Upside down, in case I ever go to Australia Buffalo Hunting.
Rich
14 November 2009, 02:14
CAS IIPerhaps you missed my last sentence?
quote:
Don't make the mistake of assuming others are afflicted by your shortcomings.
14 November 2009, 02:27
CAS IIThat is darn nice work, clearly one of the best CZs I've seen.
It takes a lot of work to get one from this:
to what is posted above.
16 November 2009, 07:12
jsl3170well, shooaway although you are right that PHs and game rangers are not paying thousands of dollars to heave bullets downrange, they are the ones keeping yer ass safe enough to do so and many are using ZKK 602s and 550s. so, are you telling us that not only is the CZ an improper DG action, but you would not trust your safety to a pro using one to back you up?
beyond the murky details of the Alan Lowe death-by-elephant situation with a BRNO and its backasswards safety can you cite us an example wherein the CZ was unfit for usage as a backup weapon?
we're waiting...
18 November 2009, 12:44
jackgutharyquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
The best improvement that can happen to the CZ's is for someone to make a one piece trigger guard and magazine assembly that is cartridge specific.After all these costly improvements are made,you still have a unreliable action in that the rounds are swimming around in the large magazine supported by a soft spring.The rifle may work fine when your are playing with it in your home but when you push it and use it under any stressful situation you'll see its faults.You would be better off with a Winchester or Ruger than any worked over CZ.A rifle has to load,eject, and feed easily and reliably anyplace any time.
I myself have full confidence in the CZ 550 action as being fully adequate for DG hunting, as do many PH's across Africa, as well as clients in pursuit of DG.
So much bullshit in your post a guy just about needs a set of waders to get through it all!
You sir, are a DUMBASS.
18 November 2009, 19:44
Michael RobinsonI have used AHR-modified CZs in .500 A-Square, .458 Lott and .416 Rigby to shoot a trophy room full of dangerous and plains game.
IMHO, the CZ 550 Magnum action is one of the best Mauser-derived, magnum-length bolt actions extant. The action is a bit rough, and needs some work as it comes from the factory, but so do all of the rest of them.
People often fail to realize just how good the CZ action truly is, and either dismiss it ("no snob appeal") or take it for granted - I think because it's so readily available and doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
But just think how little choice we big bore shooters would be left with if CZ stopped making it.
Mike
Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer.
19 November 2009, 00:01
RIPjackguthary,
Ouch! Your quote of shitforwit (aka shootaway) circumvented the ignore function.
CZ, Winchester, Ruger, or true Mauser: I like them all and have a dozen or more of each.
I would not pay for a Dakota 76 African action again, nor any other action, when I could get a CZ action to build as good a rifle as any.
DRG says: "Kiss my liberal grits!"

21 November 2009, 01:12
Allen MartinQuestion .....
Where or who makes this bottom-metal for the 550 ???
Like this one pictured .....
I feel this would make a great action almost perfect !!!
Feel free to hop in and let me know !!!
26 November 2009, 04:36
MHC_TXVery nice - Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
26 November 2009, 10:49
yesdoes CZ 550 have the same thread diameter as brno 602 and barrel from 602 can fit a cz action?
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27 November 2009, 09:51
yesthanks for the reply
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13 December 2009, 02:32
shootawayI was just dry firing my CZ 458wm and it is really a fine action.It ejects far better than my Rugers and it is much smoother.I am having my 458 lott CZ worked on by Ralph Martini and that one will get the Wisner floor plate.I was just wondering if the magazine box will fit the same number of rounds with the Wisner floor plate.I guess it might work better with the new floor plate.
13 December 2009, 05:50
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
The best improvement that can happen to the CZ's is for someone to make a one piece trigger guard and magazine assembly that is cartridge specific.After all these costly improvements are made,you still have a unreliable action in that the rounds are swimming around in the large magazine supported by a soft spring.The rifle may work fine when your are playing with it in your home but when you push it and use it under any stressful situation you'll see its faults.You would be better off with a Winchester or Ruger than any worked over CZ.A rifle has to load,eject, and feed easily and reliably anyplace any time.
Sir, you say one thing, then you say what is in your post right above & below this one?

Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
13 December 2009, 05:52
BigFiveJackquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I was just dry firing my CZ 458wm and it is really a fine action.It ejects far better than my Rugers and it is much smoother.I am having my 458 lott CZ worked on by Ralph Martini and that one will get the Wisner floor plate.I was just wondering if the magazine box will fit the same number of rounds with the Wisner floor plate.I guess it might work better with the new floor plate.
I don't understand you sir. {see prior two posts}

Jack
OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.}
13 December 2009, 05:53
shootawayI think what is causing the problem is the CZ floor plate.It might work better with the Wisner plate(less room for the rounds to swim in).
13 December 2009, 06:21
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by G.Hansen:
In .416 Rigby, the Wisner 'pocket' floorplate adds one (1) additional round (4 + 1) to the factory capacity (3 + 1). As a practical consideration, it 'works' for me, in this project.
For many others, the factory CZ floorplate and magazine capacity have been wholly satisfactory.
If I understand correctly,the one pictured above, is not the "pocket" floorplate??
13 December 2009, 07:48
JBrownquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I think what is causing the problem is the CZ floor plate.It might work better with the Wisner plate(less room for the rounds to swim in).
The Wisner has more room, so your rounds will really be swimming around in there. You seem to be having problems with your CZ that few others have experienced.
Jason
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13 December 2009, 16:45
shootawayI bought a Wisner floorplate a while back and sent it directly to my smith.It was for a custom lott project I was going to do with the CZ action.It was to make the rifle more appealing and/or for engraving.I didn't realize that it might change mag capacity.The term "swimming around" was borrowed from another member,when he spoke of the rounds in the CZ mag.Another member used the words sheet metal?? to describe the CZ mag box.So,there is some question regarding the way the rounds are sitting in that CZ box prior to feeding.Then there is the way the CZ stock is designed that does not let you get a firm hold on the narrow see-saw like forearm when you thrust the bolt and feed the rounds with your other arm.With the Ruger you have a flat,low and straight forearm along with a straight stock that helps keep the rifle staight and not pivoting or see-sawing from the effects of the bolt thrust.But,once you get used to each style there shouldn't be much of a problem.I find that with the CZ it's more of a see-saw and pop where the Ruger it's lift,aim and hold.The Ruger allows for a better hold.
13 December 2009, 18:26
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I bought a Wisner floorplate a while back and sent it directly to my smith.It was for a custom lott project I was going to do with the CZ action.It was to make the rifle more appealing and/or for engraving.I didn't realize that it might change mag capacity.The term "swimming around" was borrowed from another member,when he spoke of the rounds in the CZ mag.Another member used the words sheet metal?? to describe the CZ mag box.So,there is some question regarding the way the rounds are sitting in that CZ box prior to feeding.Then there is the way the CZ stock is designed that does not let you get a firm hold on the narrow see-saw like forearm when you thrust the bolt and feed the rounds with your other arm.With the Ruger you have a flat,low and straight forearm along with a straight stock that helps keep the rifle staight and not pivoting or see-sawing from the effects of the bolt thrust.But,once you get used to each style there shouldn't be much of a problem.I find that with the CZ it's more of a see-saw and pop where the Ruger it's lift,aim and hold.The Ruger allows for a better hold.
you might have your government come in and inspect your condo for fumes .. i think you've got a dangerous, and perhaps brain damaging, leak going on there