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is there any who makes cheap(cz price range) rifles for the .404 Jeffery out there?

i am aware of cz custom shop, but does anybody know the price of them?
 
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I'd call Cabelas.
CZ 404 Jeffery


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Steffen, I purchased two of them CZ safari classic and I am extremely satisfied, each one went for $2450. Before anyone asks: I have two infant sons, ergo, two rifles AND its my favorite caliber.
 
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2450$...hmm
for that price i could have a .425 Express buildt.

guess i'll have to think about it.
 
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Be sure and add at least a year, to a year and a half to that cost. The CZ, you could be shooting it, this weekend!


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Right on Rusty, plus there is a ton of reloading materiel for the 404, plus a great round all-around.
 
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You could also rebore a used Ruger RSM in 375 H&H for much less the the CZ package. This is what I have been thinking about. However, its too ballistically similar to my 416 rem. If I found a deal on a ruger I'd probably just do it.
Also you could go the MRC PH action route and have a real keeper.

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Brad,

what you describe is exactly what I did six years ago, and I still don't have a rifle that will feed, even after a trip to Dennis Olsen, the "world's best 'make-it-chamber-right' gunsmith."

There's something about the magazine set up for the .375 (at least in the RSM) that makes it incompatible to ever chamber the 404 right. What's happening is the feed rails, which have been relieved as much as they can be relieved and still hold rounds in the magazine, force the cartridge to sit too low in the magazine. When the bolt picks it up, the bullet hits the feed ramp at too steep an angle, and the nose bounces off the ramp and the cartridge jams against the top of the chamber mouth.

So far, I've put about five grand into this rifle. That's a lot of money for a gun that was supposed to be a "cheap" alternative to a custom rifle.
 
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GAHUNTER

Thanks for the input I'm not trying to Hijack this post but your experience is very helpful. I am having a RSM rebored and reworked into a 500 Jeffery by Jim Dubell hopefully he will have better luck. Steffen I guess the RSM is out. This might explain the long standing mystery of why Ruger announced the 404 chambering but never built one. Maybe they knew it was a bust all along and just never offically told us. I guess the RSM isn't as flexible as I once thought? Well then a PH still might be good or maybe a Rem 700 rework?

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Many posters on this very board warned me that the 404 Jeffery is one of the hardest rounds to convert to, unless the original magazine and receiver was factory set up for a caliber that uses the 404 case as a parent round (like the Ultra Mag series of cases.) I think someone also said the 7mm STW will also work.

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It cost me pretty close to that to build mine on a M70 300RUM. Now the M70 is quite abit more today but going basic, you could probably still build one on an appropriate M70 for that today. The CZ is probably your best bet though for quality v cost.


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I did the 300 RUM Conversion on a M70. My main reason for choosing this route rather than the CZ was that I have 2 other M70's and like sticking with one type of action.

Sent it to Pac-Nor for rebarrelling, local Smith for new sights, blueing, scope mounting etc. In the end paid about the same: roughly 2450 beofre the scope and mounts.

Unless one just wanted one on a M70 like I did, I'd go with the CZ.


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Posts: 1010 | Location: Texan in Muskogee, OK now moved to Wichita, KS | Registered: 28 February 2005Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by cable68:
I did the 300 RUM Conversion on a M70. My main reason for choosing this route rather than the CZ was that I have 2 other M70's and like sticking with one type of action.

Sent it to Pac-Nor for rebarrelling, local Smith for new sights, blueing, scope mounting etc. In the end paid about the same: roughly 2450 beofre the scope and mounts.

Unless one just wanted one on a M70 like I did, I'd go with the CZ.


Plus the CZ is a very accurate rifle:
these were at 100 yds, open sights, standing using 300, 400 and 450 gr bullets:

 
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