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Dave asked me to post a Picture of my second 470-MBOGO. My first was on a 1917 Enfield action and this one is on a CZ550. The barrel is a Pac-Nor and uses a profile I designed for DGR's. There is a barrel mounted recoil lug located directly under the rear sight base and two crossbolts. The action is also steel bedded. The sights are NECG. The rifle weighs 12lbs and has three mercury recoil reducers in the buttstock and balances right under the front ring. I did all the gunsmithing including threading, chambering, headspacing , bolt and feed rail modification. The stock came semi-inletted from 470 MBOGO himself( I got him to make two), but I did all the shaping/ contouring and fitting to the action as well as the finish.. Blueing was homebrew hot tank Oxenate #7. Checkering was done by AHR as ED has a lady who is much much better at checkering than I. Total cost including action was under $1000. The rifle will shoot sub MOA at 100 yrds, and holds three down and one in the pipe. Feeding and ejection are flawless! The 470 MBOGO is a really powerfull cartridge! Penetration is phenomenal and accuracy second to none. The recoil of this rifle at full tilt boogie is in a word "stout", but manageable. I plan to use it on my next African Safari! Used with Bridger solid, I would expect near Garrett 45-70 level performance. Assuming I slow it down of course!-Rob

 
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Nice, Rob. How much does it weigh?

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George-12lbs.-Rob
 
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The rifle weighs 12lbs... -Rob




 
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Sorry Rob, my cheeky reply to George posted at the same time as yours.

Your picture doesn't seem to display at the moment. Is hunt101 down?

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Canuck,
There seems to be a latency regarding delivering the photos to the browser. Sometimes, the photos show, other times they show a red 'X' (in IE).

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Robgunbuilder, I am confused. You said this about your 470 Mbogo before:

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Here is a picture of my latest 470 MBOGO. It's built on a CZ550 Magnum action( started life as a .375 H&H) with a 26 inch Pac-Nor barrel. NECG open sights and Front Ramp sight. The stock was a semi -inletted blank That Dave Estergaard ( 470 MBOGO himself) had duplicated when he had his stock made. I did all the rest of the stockwork including the crossbolts( Johansen DGR style). Ther stock has three mercury recoil reducers in the butt and an F990 pad. This stock was the test Mule for the stock that's going on the .600 OK!! I did all the metal work including threading,chambering,second recoil lug and all the feeding work( this took about 5 hrs to get right!). This rifle will hold four down with a slightly extended magazine box and feeds and ejects slicker than snot ( It will actually feed four empty cases!!!)! You can see the relief in the rear bridge that makes this possible, The stock is being sent out tomorrow for checkering and I will blue the gun next weekend. My son and I took it to the range today for it's first test firing. After adjusting the sights, it put 4 rounds through the X ring offhand at 50 yrds. I was using very light loads in it, 106 grs of RL-15 with a 500 gr .470 Woodleigh solid. It's very comfortable to shoot, but the Mercury recoil reducers are no match for a good muzzel brake. This thing speaks with authority!! This load with this barrel length should be about 2400 fps based on previous chrono experience.-Rob





In that post you said it easily holds 4 down, now you say it only holds 3, new follower?

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Yes, I retained the original CZ safety , Boltshroud and Trigger (yuk)! I honestly don't find the three position saftey that much of an advantage and probably more importantly, The stock was already partially inletted for the CZ safety( no clean way to fill the wood). To my knowledge There is no difference between the .416 Rigby mag and the .375 mag. All the big bore CZ mags seem to be the same as are the followers. I just made a sheet metal mag box that was a little longer to get an extra round down. By the way the rifle weighs 14 lbs and I could still add a Vais brake if anyone wanted it installed. That should cut the recoil down to about .308 win levels!
I'm sending it out for checkering and will add sling swivels. Metal will be blued next weekend. It should be finished in three to four weeks! I would accept offers of around $3500 or any trades for a double rifle, collectable winchester etc. I have only one set of dies( I need them), but 470 MBOGO dies are available from CH4D or I could make a set for the purchaser ( they are extra). You can't see if from this picture, but all the stock inletting is really quite good with no significant gaps anywhere. That stock alone probably has 100 hrs of work in it! It doesn't have alot of figure, but what's there is good. This is a real working rifle that you can take to Africa and expect to stake your life on!. It will not fail you!-Rob






In that post you said it weighed 14 pounds! Did checkering take 2 pounds out of the rifles weight?

That is an old picture too! Got anything more recent?

I hope you are still ignoring me.

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Nice rifle Rob, looks like the comb is pretty low. Any problem seeing through the scope when you bring the rifle up fast?
 
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Rob
great looking rifle! Do you have any closeups of the action on the one you built on the enfield? I am starting a rifle with an enfield, think im going to stick with a medium bore but thats still undecided.
Thanks Dean
 
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I suspect Rob stocked the gun for iron sights and shoots a scope with it...That is by far the best way to set up a dangerous game rifle, and I never knew anyone who missed because the comb was too low, thats an over stated gun magazine, Jack O'Connor hangover....

All my rifles are set up that way, I didn't buy the hype...I was raised on low comb M-70s and then Weaver gave us a scope, so we stuck them on the low comb guns in all our cowboy ignorance and I think the good Lord above for that, ignorance is bliss and a lot of game has bit the dirt.
 
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Ray is correct, If I put IRON sights on a gun the stock is set up for them first and a scope is an add on. This stock design also directs the recoil straight back into the pocket of your shoulder rather than into your cheek. I set up my guns to balance just under the ring so they come up fast and your eye alligns perfectly with the sights. Even though it's a heavy gun, it holds remarkably stable on target. Much better than a too light weopon like a M1895 win 405 for example.-Rob
 
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HI,

I saw the web page about the 470Mbogo, that is a hell of a round.ROBGUNBUILDER, the rifle weight is 12 pounds do you think if you wanted to you could have got the weight down to around 10?. I guess it would start to really hurt some with that round at the lighter weight, nice rifle must be fun to shoot.. Kev
 
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Hi Kev,
My 470 Mbogo wieghs in at 10.5 lbs and is not bad to shoot. The stock is very straight in line and the butt surface area takes a full sized Pachmayer F990 recoil pad. If you looked at the rapid fire video on my site you can see when my concentration is on the target the gun movement on recoil is not that much. That particular rifle has a heavier contoured barrel that is fluted.
Take care
Dave
 
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Rob, I don't want to hurt your feelings, bro, but I don't think you got it quite right.
Lucky for you, I'll give you your $1k back out of it, and maybe you'll have better luck on the next one.
 
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Rob, I don't want to hurt your feelings, bro, but I don't think you got it quite right.
Lucky for you, I'll give you your $1k back out of it, and maybe you'll have better luck on the next one.




Bwana-be,

You are a true humanitarian!

George
 
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Damn nice rifle! You are probably the best real DGR builder Ive seen in quite a while!Any chance you'd be willing to sell it? I'd offer you $5K with dies and some brass!!! any interest?
ScottS probably can't add as three down and one in the pipe equals four. Perhaps ScottS can't count after all the meds and rejection he's getting!
 
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