Any load data I receive will be considered safe in your gun, but not mine, and will be worked up from below watching for pressure signs in my gun.

Thanks!

400 to 405 grain bullet of your choice.
Primer and brass of your choice, standard large rifle primer.
53.0 grains of IMR 3031.
Velocity about 1800 fps in a 22" barrel.

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Ben

Softlead

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Originally posted by ming:
I also vote for the 53 grains of H322 load with those Remington 405 grain JFP bullets. In order to get most out of your 45-70, the COL must be about .125 longer to allow more case capacity but the 1895 must be modified to take a longer COL. Good luck. Ming

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Ming � Can I load the 405 gr. Rem. bullet over 53 gr. H322 in the standard 1895 guide gun chamber without compressing the powder too much, or does this load assume a longer chamber for the 1895? I am assuming I will need to seat/crimp the 405 gr. Rem. over the forward edge of the bullet where the ogive starts?

The answer is yes. I have shot hundred of arounds with this particular load in my 1895 GS Guide Gun. With 53 grains of H322, you will be compressing it a little with Starline brass but not a problem. If you use Winchester brass, then you can add 2 more grains to this load due to the larger case capacity. Remember, this is near maximum load for the modern Marlin Guide Gun so approach it carefully. This load is not safe at all with those Trapdoor rifles. Good luck. Ming

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Originally posted by ming:
Shark Bait,

The answer is yes. I have shot hundred of arounds with this particular load in my 1895 GS Guide Gun. With 53 grains of H322, you will be compressing it a little with Starline brass but not a problem. If you use Winchester brass, then you can add 2 more grains to this load due to the larger case capacity. Remember, this is near maximum load for the modern Marlin Guide Gun so approach it carefully. This load is not safe at all with those Trapdoor rifles. Good luck. Ming

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Thanks Ming. I am using Starline brass so will start below and work up to 53 grains. Thanks again for the advice.

Remington 300hp Re-7 55.3gr W-W cases CCI-200 2028fps nice groups also.

Sierra 300hp IMR-4198 49.6gr W-W cases CCI-200 1800fps nice groups also.

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My 45-70 is my best friend.NRA Member

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My 45-70 is my best friend.NRA Member

Welcome on board and thanks for the loads. Cheers. Ming

for Speer 400 grn FSN...
52 grn RL-7 1910 fps
56 grn H322 1902 fps

...Yep! over 1900 fps with the 400's in an 1895 or MODERN 1886 Browning.

Many other .45-70 loads for Ruger #1, 1886, T/C Contenders, etc. and other bullets and weights in this article.

Please reduce and work up in your rifle for safety's sake. I have rechecked these numbers several times and this IS what is printed but I take no responsibility for your reloads!

I initially tried RL-7, AA-2495, and H322 for the RCBS cast 45-405 FNGC bullets in my 1979 vintage 12 groove 1895 Marlin (as distinguished from the rarer 16 groove barrels) micro-groove barrel. In this trial the H322 was the cleanest of the bunch. Accuracy was tied between the H322 and RL-7 with the edge going to H322. So that is what I have settled on for both cast and in more recent trials with the Speer 400 grn FSN. I shot a muley buck with the .45-70 400 grn Speer load (54grn H322 / WLR primer) and it hit him with a quartering shot and was recovered and weighed 394 grns...almost big as a quarter! Potent stuff in a light rifle like the 1895 Marlin. Jeff P