Can anyone here tell me why Remington dropped two of their best selling cartridges from their standard line of rifles(not talking about anything from their custom shop), the .338 Winchester Magnum and the .375 H&H(both of these rounds were outselling the RUM counterparts)? Also gone is the .416 Remington Magnum. Went to their web site and did a search for these three cartridges and zip, zero, etc.. Just think that if Remington has to drop the .338 & .375 RUM�s then Remington�s big bore will be their M673 in .350 Rem. Mag.. Lawdog

Remington is run by bean counters, not hunters. I'm sure they have quantities of every model that must be sold, and if they aren't making their numbers, then a given chambering gets dropped from the list.

Let's face it, there bread and butter comes from whitetail rifles, and folks aren't buying 338's, 375's or 416's for those critters.

Chalk it up as one more reason not to buy a remington :;

Gary,
Speculation is that Remington wanted to force fans of the 700 into purchasing the RUM offerings instead of cartridges bearing non-Remington names (.338 Winchester Magnum, .375 H&H , 7mm STW ).

As for dropping the .416 Rem., it wasn't much for sales of 700s, as most knowledgeable DG hunters pick CRFs for that cartridge.

Besides, they may be getting ready to drop a .416 RUM on us.


George

Guys,

Winchester (USRAC) is doing the same with their .270 & 7mm WSMs vis a vis the 7mm RM.

jim

If forums such as this one and others like HuntAmerica are a guide the main activity with people buying Rem 700s or using Rem 700 actions seems to be the smaller calibres.

Mike

The 338 win mag out sold the 338 ultra mag about 10 to 1.The 375 H&H outsold the 375 ultra mag about 20 to 1.In order to resurge their ulta mags which lost the spotlight to the short mags they killed the competion within their own camp.I think the ultra mags will disapear and the 375 H&h and 338 win mag will be back into Remington guns within 3 years.I went with the 338-378 weatherby instead of the 338 ultra mag.I would not mind a 338 ultra mag in stainless with a muzzle break.The 416 Rem mag is a classic.It will not disapear.Remington is shooting their own foot for not chambering it.I have 3 of them and two are Remingtons.

All of those cartridges should be used in a CRF action, for once Remington got something right!

Remington makes runs of 416s from time to time....but Remington will drop you in the grease in a heart beat, remember the 5MM the made the gun and ammo then dropped the ammo completely....They will try and force sales of the RUMs by dropping other calibers that will out sell it..There bean counters are really dumber than a box of hammers, always have been..I am told by some exects that they even support the Democratic party under the table, for Gods sake.

Remington and USRAC have to recoup investments in products that don't sell. The S/S M-70 Featherweight in 308 may be the most sensible and useful rifle USRAC ever built, but if you want a .30-caliber S/S FWT today, it's a WSM or nothing. If you want a Remington or USRAC rifle any time soon, get a used one before the prices go up -- remember what happened to the pre-64 M-70 and the Series 70 Colt 1911 in the 1980's. On the bright side, this sort of heavy-handedness will help firms like MRC and Kimber, just like Colt and S&W's foot-dragging put new players on the map in the defenisve handgun market in the 1980's.

The real player I see coming out of this is CZ. They responded quickly to the whole C-clip problem, which indicates that they're attentive where the domestic major makers are arrogant. They have a golden opportunity to step in and clobber USRAC and Remington.

Okie John.

You don't suppose that Remington is owned by a French company, too?

A quick look at the ballistics chart and the "centerfire" sections on Remington's website indicates the following for the cartridges in question:

.338 Win- 4 loadings
.338 RUM- 2 loadings
.375 H&H- 2 loadings
.375 RUM- 2 loadings
.416 Mag- 1 loading

It seems awfully logical that a greedy capitalist company run by bean counters would not ignore such popular market segments, especially the .338 and the .375.

Hammers indeed, maybe their heads are harder than that even! IMO,what Remington needs to do is get out of the crap cartridge business, and build a decent rifle to go with the cartridges that are already there. The rum, ultra, and the other nonsense rounds that are only designed to catch novice shooters! Like fishing lures, are designed to catch more fishermen, than fish, the new rounds are simply to take the light off their crappy rifle. A fix for cartridges that are not broken, instead of building a decent platform for DGR rounds, that already exist. Eventhough the 416 Rem Mag is simply a cartridge that had a very small change so they could put the Big Green on George's 416 Hoffman, it is a good cartridge, and still desearves a decent rifle to chamber it in, and a better supply of factory ammo.