I have my eye on a baeutiful Perugini & Visini double in .470 nitro. It has a lion engraved into the bottom that looks like a holographic photo it's so fine and perfect!

The rifle is quite light and well balanced so it would be a fairly practical rifle for actual use, and the caliber is appealing to me as it still gets "some" good tradjectory if compared to the bigger guns.

The one thing that hold me off is; if I buy this rifle I'm not likely to pick up another one for a long time to come, and I would like a bigger bore just for the hell of it.
What would you do? wait for a bigger gun to turn up, or go with the .470 if it will get used from time to time in driven boar hunts etc..?

Mate half your luck! Buy it, life's to short to worry about what may come up.

Bakes

EXPRESS,

If you hesitate about this gun, don't buy it or you will regret smth. not as accurate as you want, not as big as you want,...

Take your time to see pro/con things with this gun according to your whishes.

Quite light and .470 Nitro Express do not go hand in hand. However it will have a good resale value just becuase it is a 470. IF you have had the rifle checked out and feel it is solid, and on the face, then why are you wasting time reading this when you ought to be buying that double.

A word of caution, if you aren't familiar with doubles at least have the opportunity to have it checked out before finalizing the deal!

I looked at some of these doubles some years ago in Reno. At that time they did not use a third fastner. I think a double should have this feature. Just check it out.
George

IMHO,
If you don't know the round, then this could be more of a nostalgia, and thereby ceremonial buy, than a true hunting double. If the deal is sensational, then there's either a problem OR the seller doesn't have a clue.

My personal situation is that I am torn between the 500/416, 470, and 500 NE... and I have settled on the 470 for various reasons, one of them being that i know I am recoil sensitive, and a 10.5# 470 does wonders for me.

500 grains at ~2100 is perfect for this rifle.
http://www.accuratereloading.com/470ne.html

I am NOT a double expert, but 2" at 50 should be the worst your accept, if you are a decent shot.

Jeffe

The 470NE is the most popular round chambered in a double rifle today! The same rifle in another chambering would generally sell for $1000 US less simply because of the chambering!

If the rifle it tight, and clean, I'd buy it, you can always get your money back because of the 470NE chambering and the BOLINO engraveing!

GEORGE , I'm not sure all od the P&V doubles are built without a third fastener, maybe some. The ones I've had anything to do with used the PURDEY hidden third fastener, between the ejectors. When the rifle is open, the center rib extention is buried between the ejectors and often missed with only a glance!
http://www.hallowellco.com/abbrevia.htm#half click on the letter "C", then scroll down to concealed third fastener!

RUSTY , the rifle may not be as light as EXPRESS thinks! Most P&V rifles are very well ballanced, and feel very light for their actual weight!

EXPRESS I believe you will find the 470NE to your likeing, but one thing I might caution you about, and that is: If you handload your own ammo, do not exceed the speeds of the factory ammo! Start low and work up very carefully, though the P&V may be brand new, it is still 19th century technology, and will not tollerate high chamber pressures, and even if it would, it wouldn't shoot properly if the conditions are changed from factory balistics, and componants. Bullet shape is critical, as is the speed at which it is exiting the muzzles!

[ 02-17-2003, 20:08: Message edited by: MacD37 ]

You have made several references to trajectory in regards to the .470....It has no trajectory, it is strictly a 50 yard gun and will just work at 100 yards but I doubt that using a 470 at 100 yds is wise for most folks.....

Take it for what it is...and that is a 50 yard buffalo rifle or a 25 yard Elephant gun, a charge stopper up close...

I have not seen a P&V double that I wanted, most, if not all, I have seen have been shot off the face..but I have not seen a whole lot of them.

Express

I agree with Ray, I haven't seen a P&G that I would want to use either. Like a Ferrari or a beautiful woman, looks nice but high maintainance. Fun to take for a test ride but not dependable in a crunch.

I think they are mostly monoblocks also. If you can indeed buy it 'right' you will probably make some money as I think large calibers are reasonable in Italy. I wouldn't go over US$10,000.