I call dibs! I will take them for $100. I have left messages every way I know how.

Don

;-)

Longbob had a shot at it!

I don't get any early notice on this stuff, so it was a fair fight!

After I get it I will sort as to mfg. I might sell or trade at least some of it, to keep from having to check/develop loads for the different cases.

Stay tuned!

Don

I have mixed feelings about reloading my 458 Lott. I didn't plan on shooting it that much and the cost of ammo is a governer.

Buying ammo for a Lott would be an extreme "governor" for me. I can't imagine buying a single box!

Don

1) Dies? I have a little lee single stage O-press. I'm betting I could make it work, but where to get dies? And for just his rifle and no other, do I have to size them?

2) Bullets? They use the same as a 45-70, correct? How long are they? I can handle up to .900" bullets with ease, and a little longer with some cheating. How long are the bullets?

3) Powder and primers?

Thanks!

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I'm not familiar with the press you describe, but regular 458 Win dies can be made to work in my rockchucker. Any .458 diameter bullet will work. Since I have yet to load a live round of Lott ammo, I hesitate to go much further with the advice.

IMR4895 is a decent powder for that case for everything from 300 gr to 500 gr bullets.

Paul H has posted his experiences with the Lott, why not do a search on his name and Lott at the same time and get an experienced answer?

Don

What is the twist rate on that barrel?

Really, I noticed today that my shoulder was still bruised. As much as I hate to say it, something makes me want to do it all over again.

Paul H sent me some starting data, and we can discuss how we want to go about loading for it later. Also, I will be at the Market hall gun show on the 5th or 6th, so I will keep an eye out for components. You never know.

Shucks, in a well stocked gun, the Lott don't kick much worse than an ol' Ott-six , ol' odd six, oh ho six, . . . what twitch?

I don't know if the Lee 458 Win dies will work for a Lott. The RCBS FL sizer die is unusually long and does not have a crimping point in it like most rifle dies.

I have only heard of people doing this with RCBS dies.

FWIW,
Don

Carr4570, Yup the A2 manual is right you can back the dies out enough that it in a sense "neck" sizes it and in my guns improves accuracy and case life.

I remember someone posted about cutting the sizing die off a certain amount to create a ghost shoulder when the case is run up inside it. I can't find it now but if any one knows the specifics I would appreciate that info.

Sooner

Norbert said "shorten the sizer to 48 mm". I would do some measuring, and shorten the sizer until the top of the case came out straight-walled with an ID just big enough to grab my bullets hard -- say .455.

Don

Anyone have any tips on figuring out the best trim length, or is does it space on the shoulder? And how do I figure out the best OAL?

We will start with fast powder loads for now. I figure I can just fill up the case with Bullseye, the name sounds real accurate, and maybe use a 185gr 45ACP SWC (just kidding)

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I'd say start with the 458 win mag dies, then consider getting CH4D to make you a sizer. I'd also see if lee makes a factory crimp die for the 458 win mag, or even 45-70. You can use a cylindrical shim slid over the case to allow the shell holder to contact the crimp die. I use a 358 win factory crimp die with my 35 whelen, and a piced of 5/8" tubing. A piece of 3/4" tubing should be just right for the lott.

Based on the bruising I'd guess you guys don't use a past recoil pad? I highly recomend them for range work! I've never been bruised by the lott when using it.

Hah,..I bet after shooting one you have the most well pressed shirt in the crowd as well, particularly the shoulder area

I want one!!!!!!

mike

Crimping: Use the Lee factory type crimp die, it is much, much, much, and much beter than the crimp you get in a conventional seating die. Makes a better, deeper crimp, expecially needed for those heavy bullets in the high recoil Lott, and you can get it deep into the cannulure.

As Paul said, if you do not have a Past Magnum pad, you are missing something.

Bullets: For the new reloader, remember that 45-70 bullets will not withstand the Lott velocities on game. OK for plinking.

The fun in shooting full house loads in the Lott is developing the correct backwards two step so you do not trip on your own feet, while maintaining good recovery of the rifle and getting back on target with a fresh round in the chamber. Sort of a DGR ballet.

Longbob wants to eventually go with 500 solids I'm sure, but for now we'll just be playing and testing.

Still waiting to hear from Lee. Sometimes they'll piece things together cheaply for you. Who knows.

Do you expect to dance a jig when testing the 500 Jeffrey

My buddy who bought my lott had a new synthetic stock made, the rifle now weighs 8 1/4# as I recall. The barrel is ported.

The recoil really isn't that bad, I shot a 350 and 500 gr load out of it w/o the past pad, and no bruising.

Paul, I am practicing a new three step for the 500 Jeffery. Got a lightweight pair of aerobic workout shoes to wear instead of the Danner's.

Sheister, I Never thought about fathering children as related to shooting the DGR, you might be on to something. Maybe this divorced bachelor should shoot the heavies more often!

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Originally posted by John Ricks:

Paul, I am practicing a new three step for the 500 Jeffery. Got a lightweight pair of aerobic workout shoes to wear instead of the Danner's.

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John,

Just wondering, are you planning on doing that dance anytime soon? Grown boy sans big bore just wondering

Sheister,

You boys in Orygon must have a peculiar method of holding your rifles if you think a big bore will damage one's reproductive abilities. ;p

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Originally posted by Sheister:

I thought about building one of these 458 Lotts a couple of times, but after reading this thread I just have one question, can any of you still father children? -Sheister

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Not me, but I did shoot it twice in one day. Maybe that was a little too much?

So John, would that be considered Controlled Round Feet?

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