Gentlemen:

Does anybody have any experience, load data, etc. with this bullet for .416 remington?

Many thanks...

Those bullets work well with a compressed load of N133 in my .405 WCF, but you will need more powder for your .416. If no one comes forward to help, you might contact North Fork for help.

I've not used these, but I did use the 250gr NF bonded cores in my .375H&H in June this year. It is kinda/sorta the equivalent light for caliber to the 325gr in .416.

I had two very accurate loads running about 2830fps. One was using H4895, the other Varget. The Varget load however was just below a point where pressure signs started to show. So I used the H4895 load which I didn't see pressures signs in when I went higher. The accuracy however started to drop off.

My intent was to use these on Eland and then whatever. A scope issue in the middle of the hunt however forced me to use my .300WM loaded with 200gr NF's and worked just fine on my eland.

Later in the hunt I swapped the scope on my .300WM to the .375 and used it to take a red hartebeest and blue wildebeest. Those 250's hit with authority, I'm sure the 325's out of your .416 will be that much stronger.

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Originally posted by 7MMNut:
I've not used these, but I did use the 250gr NF bonded cores in my .375H&H in June this year. It is kinda/sorta the equivalent light for caliber to the 325gr in .416.

I had two very accurate loads running about 2830fps. One was using H4895, the other Varget. The Varget load however was just below a point where pressure signs started to show. So I used the H4895 load which I didn't see pressures signs in when I went higher. The accuracy however started to drop off.

My intent was to use these on Eland and then whatever. A scope issue in the middle of the hunt however forced me to use my .300WM loaded with 200gr NF's and worked just fine on my eland.

Later in the hunt I swapped the scope on my .300WM to the .375 and used it to take a red hartebeest and blue wildebeest. Those 250's hit with authority, I'm sure the 325's out of your .416 will be that much stronger.

Why is it that when someone asks for load data for a 416 he gets a long winded rambling reply about 375 H&H's and 300 WM's??

just asking--

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Originally posted by Sean Russell:

quote:

Originally posted by 7MMNut:
I've not used these, but I did use the 250gr NF bonded cores in my .375H&H in June this year. It is kinda/sorta the equivalent light for caliber to the 325gr in .416.

I had two very accurate loads running about 2830fps. One was using H4895, the other Varget. The Varget load however was just below a point where pressure signs started to show. So I used the H4895 load which I didn't see pressures signs in when I went higher. The accuracy however started to drop off.

My intent was to use these on Eland and then whatever. A scope issue in the middle of the hunt however forced me to use my .300WM loaded with 200gr NF's and worked just fine on my eland.

Later in the hunt I swapped the scope on my .300WM to the .375 and used it to take a red hartebeest and blue wildebeest. Those 250's hit with authority, I'm sure the 325's out of your .416 will be that much stronger.

Why is it that when someone asks for load data for a 416 he gets a long winded rambling reply about 375 H&H's and 300 WM's??

just asking--

He asked about experience in using what would be considered a light for caliber North Fork soft. Yes I realize it was a different caliber, but thought I'd share my experience with such.

Silly me, I thought perhaps the experience using H4895 and Varget may be worth considering for his .416.

If my original post was a waste of time, what would yours be considered?

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Originally posted by 7MMNut:

quote:

Originally posted by Sean Russell:

quote:

Originally posted by 7MMNut:
I've not used these, but I did use the 250gr NF bonded cores in my .375H&H in June this year. It is kinda/sorta the equivalent light for caliber to the 325gr in .416.

I had two very accurate loads running about 2830fps. One was using H4895, the other Varget. The Varget load however was just below a point where pressure signs started to show. So I used the H4895 load which I didn't see pressures signs in when I went higher. The accuracy however started to drop off.

My intent was to use these on Eland and then whatever. A scope issue in the middle of the hunt however forced me to use my .300WM loaded with 200gr NF's and worked just fine on my eland.

Later in the hunt I swapped the scope on my .300WM to the .375 and used it to take a red hartebeest and blue wildebeest. Those 250's hit with authority, I'm sure the 325's out of your .416 will be that much stronger.

Why is it that when someone asks for load data for a 416 he gets a long winded rambling reply about 375 H&H's and 300 WM's??

just asking--

He asked about experience in using what would be considered a light for caliber North Fork soft. Yes I realize it was a different caliber, but thought I'd share my experience with such.

Silly me, I thought perhaps the experience using H4895 and Varget may be worth considering for his .416.

If my original post was a waste of time, what would yours be considered?

Educational

The OP asked for 416 data-

quote:

Originally posted by Sean Russell:

quote:

Originally posted by 7MMNut:

quote:

Originally posted by Sean Russell:

quote:

Originally posted by 7MMNut:
I've not used these, but I did use the 250gr NF bonded cores in my .375H&H in June this year. It is kinda/sorta the equivalent light for caliber to the 325gr in .416.

I had two very accurate loads running about 2830fps. One was using H4895, the other Varget. The Varget load however was just below a point where pressure signs started to show. So I used the H4895 load which I didn't see pressures signs in when I went higher. The accuracy however started to drop off.

My intent was to use these on Eland and then whatever. A scope issue in the middle of the hunt however forced me to use my .300WM loaded with 200gr NF's and worked just fine on my eland.

Later in the hunt I swapped the scope on my .300WM to the .375 and used it to take a red hartebeest and blue wildebeest. Those 250's hit with authority, I'm sure the 325's out of your .416 will be that much stronger.

Why is it that when someone asks for load data for a 416 he gets a long winded rambling reply about 375 H&H's and 300 WM's??

just asking--

He asked about experience in using what would be considered a light for caliber North Fork soft. Yes I realize it was a different caliber, but thought I'd share my experience with such.

Silly me, I thought perhaps the experience using H4895 and Varget may be worth considering for his .416.

If my original post was a waste of time, what would yours be considered?

Educational

The OP asked for 416 data-

Well thank you for the education, I'll know better next time. My sincere apologies to the OP for this egregious waste of time.

I was enlightened by the presentation.

The analogy to the 250-grain bullet in the .375 provided me with a very useful frame of reference.

Thank you.

'dart

Don't you all just love a pissing contest...?

I have used the 300gr North Fork in my 405 WCF on deer. I was suprised at how well it expanded at 405 velocities on deer as evidenced by internal damage and the size of the exit wounds.

I have also been present when some North Fork bullets were tested when Mike owned the company.

The thing about the NF Soft is that it expands even at low velocities, and holds together at high velocities.

Their Softs, and their Solids are some of the best bullets on the Planet, IMHO of course.

+1 and more for the North Forks in any of the
larger calibers. They are great. Contact them
for loading data as they have done lots of testing.

tetonka
DRSS

I have loaded 300gr Barnes TSX in my 400H&H (pretty much the case capacity as the 416 Rem) using both Varget and H 4895 with great success.

I rate the North Forks right at the top, they all work so good its boring to recover them anymore. I really like the Northfork cup points and I use them on deer or buffalo, they work on everything. I used them in my .375, 416, 404, and 9.3x62 and perhaps my .338 win??..They worked. I rate them with GS Customs, Noslers,and Woodleighs, and thats no light praise..

To All,

Always contact us if you have any questions on reloading, we have a lot of load data. The reason we do not publish load data, is we want to help our customers and make sure they are selecting the correct bullet for their hunt. A small service, but the last thing we want is for someone to get seriously hurt either while shooting their reloads or while hunting with the wrong bullet.

There are a lot of myths out there that are now considered "truth" especially with load data and pressures. The sticky bolt/flattened primer/expanded brass base measurements are not good indicators of "over-pressure". Almost all loads we have tested can reach over SAMMI/CIP accepted pressures without showing any of these signs, thus, if you see these, you are significantly over pressure for that rifle/cartridge/load system, BACKOFF IMMEDIATELY AND STOP SHOOTING THOSE LOADS!! That being said, I am still amazed at how strong modern rifles are.

Regards,
John