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As e-mailed to me moments ago... The 500 AHR  The muzzle of same  500 AHR's DGR  Thanks 500 AHR. Canuck | ||
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Canuck, Thanks for posting the pics. Perhaps people will calm down now. Those pictures are pure crap from a quality perspective. The camera man is BAD. Thanks again. I will eat some turkey for you. | |||
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nice BAR | |||
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Looks like a 500 AHR to me! Just like mine although the wood is not as nice. The leupold scope is mounted wrong and will break the foreward 20mm lense. Move it foreward! There needs to be at least 1/2 inch clearance behind the ring! The BAR looks like a Ohio ordanance semi auto.-Rob [ 11-28-2002, 08:58: Message edited by: Robgunbuilder ] | |||
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DP & Rob, Thank you for the comments. The pictures are truly terrible, though. I will not comment on your observations Rob with the one exception that you are right it is a 500 AHR. You are free to think what you want about the wood and the classification. One other exception to not posting to your comments. I cannot move the scope more than about a 1/4" forward, one of the wonders of a magnum length action. I once shared you concern about crushing the lense, but the truth is that scope has always resided on Magnum length actions being mounted as it currently is. It has well over 1000 rounds to it's credit. It may well be the scope that refuses to die (having said that it will crap the bed when I take aim on a bison next month). Hence forth I will be a kinder and gentler me. I apologize to those I may have upset over the last two years. Personally, I do not believe I have anything to apologize for, EXCEPT my abrasive manner. I promise to work on improving that. The following is an example of what I will not longer pull: Now if I did not lie about the rifles, what else, did I not lie about? If I wasn't lying, then what does that say about those that said I was lying, and contradicted everything I said with so-called truthful evidence? From now on I will simply ignore them as I feel most of the posters here do. I hope all my countrymen have a wonderful Thanksgiving. Canuck, thanks again for helping me clear the air. | |||
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Nice looking rifles, see that wasn't so hard or bad. Thanks for actually finally joining the forums. quote:not an attack, an answer That you are not an oracle, and that you have posted spurious information, and do not accept refutation. Refutation is a normal course of events. To be frank, you posted that you "only own a mossberg and a 9mm" or words to that effect, which , by these pictures, is a lie. This does go miles in building your credibility. Where you care of my opinion or not, I think you are doing the right thing. jeffe [ 11-28-2002, 20:49: Message edited by: jeffeosso ] | |||
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Pardon my ignorance but what is the black rifle? I have little knowledge about this class of firearms, other than that I could identify an M-16 or clone. Looks cool though. Nice DGR too. Todd | |||
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![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif){kind=icon} SO WHAT! This punk proves nothing with his history of lies, plagiarization, impersonations, and game playing. More lies, plagiarization, impersonation, and gamesmanship is all that can be expected. | |||
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Todd, The "black" rifle is a M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle. It is a hoot to shoot, and impressively accurate. That said it is a down right BITCH to clean! So you pay for your shooting enjoyment, to put it bluntly. Perhaps we can get together sometime at a local range where you can shoot these two, if you like. The 500 isn't too bad, but then again I cannot feel a 300 Win mag anymore and the 416 Rigby is a light recoiling rifle. Seriously, it want kill you to fire a few rounds off, and then at least any curiousity you may have about the big 50's might be satisfied. Ron Berry, I am willing to let bygone be bygones if you are. Personally, I have nothing to gain by fighting with you. I suggest if nothing else lets establish a policy of ignoring one another instead open hostility. This would be best for everyone here on the forums. Happy Thankgiving everyone. | |||
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POSeur, We will give thanks for one more thing when you disappear. | |||
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Todd E - Before you get TOO euphoric about these pictures posting, let me tell you all they REALLY prove is that you know or have access to someone with a couple of rifles and that whoever took these pictures is a piss poor photographer. The actual ownership, caliber, etc of these rifles is strictly "your word" on it, and as we all know...your word is worthless. You have spent the past year convincing all of us of this salient fact. But that said, it's the holiday season and I'm in a generous mood...so let me add these comments. Let us all assume that indeed you do actually own this CZ and let's suppose it is a 500 AHR. OK, wonderful. Big deal. What else does it prove? Nothing. A FACT that you totally chose to ignore or even comment on, is that the issue has NEVER been what, if any, guns you own. The issue with you has always been you behave like an arrogant ass. You spew stolen facts and comments out of any source you can get your hands on without EVER giving credit to the people who actually did the study or ran the tests. You try SO HARD to pretend you are God's gifts to firearms and anyone and everyone on these forums who doesn't bow down before you is an idiot of fraud. It's taken almost a year of kicking your ass and making a fool out of you so many times that you've had to change your name a dozen times just to TRY to stay ahead of the people who knew you were a fool and a pretender. Now, whoop-tee-do, you have finally got a picture of a CZ, supposedly a 500 AHR. One gun. Forgive me if I'm BADLY underwhelmed,Todd. You know, Todd, if I were you and I wanted to shut everyone up and prove I was really the great firearms authority I claimed to be, I would lay out about 20 of my different rifles right on the middle of that 61 inch table you were bullshitting us about making from that GIANT tree you shot thru...and then changed your story and claimed it was actually TWO trees...(But if it was really TWO trees, how did you make a table out of it?? ![[Confused]](images/icons/confused.gif){kind=icon} )Anyway, I would set out all my rifles on my great table I made. I would frame the table with the mounted heads of all those buffalo you claim to have brain shot and I would take a picture of that. Next, I would move to my reloading room...you know the one where you have every cartridge case known to man and where you run all your extensive water tests etc, and I would take a picture of that. And in each of these photos I would include my hand in the photo throwing everyone who doubted you the finger. But that's just me. Instead you finally manage to scrape up a picture of one CZ and now expect us to all be amazed. No one gives a shit what you own, Todd. Just stop being such a high and mighty asshole and pretending you know every damn thing there is about guns and reloading. You've already been proven so full of shit on BOTH subjects it's pitiful........so let's just drop all the pretense shall we? If you want to go on with your little pretending games, then expect the people who do know what they are talking about to continue making a fool out of you on a daily basis. If you want to just STFU and start posting REAL experiences and acting like a REAL MEMBER...well then maybe you can come back into society and be accepted here as something other than a lying ass. The choice is up to you. It always has been. You just haven't been smart enough to make the right choice. Ball's in your court. What are you going to do with it this time? Would you mind giving me the serial number of your 500 AHR? | |||
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is that a true full auto BAR or is it a newly re-manufatured semi-auto BAR, either way im sure it would be fun to blast with but the black stock caught my attention. | |||
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Pecos, I cannot apologize for having more or "cooler" life experiences than you have. I do not steal "ideas", either. Just what information is it that I have supposedly stolen, anyway? What I post is based upon MY life experiences. If they are greater than your's I am sorry for YOU. I have been shooting and hunting for a long time. If I know more than you or some of the other self proclaimed "experts", again I have nothing to apologize for. GET OVER IT! LISTEN and LEARN. I do. I hate nothing more than wasting a day LEARNING NOTHING. I literally live to learn, and I strive to learn something new everyday! I believe that many of the contributors and readers here at AR fall into this same category, too! I do not understand what you and Ron Berry's big problem is with me, either. Unless of course you are terrified that I might expose both of you for what your are, or is simply jealousy? I really do not care nor do I want to know. What I want and care about is that I am left to post in peace. If I am wrong I freely admit it, always have and always will. I have been fortunate enough in my life to do a great many "cool" and exciting things. These events range from hunting dangerous big game to owning/operating my own 8 second 1/4 mile drag car. Does this make me special...HELL NO. It makes me VERY FORTUNATE! On a day like today (Thanksgiving) I thank the Almighty for all the blessings he has bestowed upon myself and family. When I state a fact, I know it is a fact, and you bet I will tell off some cyber-guru who says something to contrary. I am a straight shooter when dealt with honestly. Problem is on the "net" there is only one way of knowing if you are being spoken to honestly...test the informant by asking them questions you know and THEY should know based upon their self professed expertise. This can be a ugly business and inevitably will piss off those wannabe experts, who in fact know nothing and fail the testing. So again I ask you to reconsider your current stance. If nothing else let us just ignore one another and leave it at that. One last item. If you go and check my original penetration post to Canuck, I stated that a plurality of trees were involved if I remember correctly. I used wood taken from one of the trees, that was cut into 1" planks by a sawmill and air dried, to make a HUTCH not a table! This is all I am going to say on the matter. Take it or leave it. I will no longer fight with you, as it serves no useful or productive purpose! I sincerely hope, that you and your's enjoy this Holiday of Thanksgiving. Dark Paladin, I would prefer not to answer your question on a public forum. The black butt stock was late issue. The Korean and Vietnam generation rifles should have all had these stocks. It is also said that some of the late WWII rifles were thus equipped. The WWII BAR that a cousin owned was walnut stocked fore and aft. An uncle who carried one, for almost three years in Korea, had a bakelite stock (black plastic just like the one in the picture). I hope that answered your questions satisfactorily. Enjoy what is left of Thanksgiving. [ 11-29-2002, 02:29: Message edited by: 500 AHR ] | |||
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OK, Todd, in other words you STILL haven't learned anything and this latest SHOW of "sincerity and repentence" is the same line of Todd E crap as before. If I cared enough to bother, I could go back and dredge up all your "EXPERIENCES" you love to boast about and we could lay them out and compare them one to the other and see very readily they are all bullshit and do NOT jive. Just as your suddenly changed story of shooting thru a tree and then cutting it down to make a table out of it. Then when confronted with a few facts about the tree, it suddenly became TWO trees. Amazing how your experiences change almost as fast as your member names and residences and professions. And I remember well you boasting on the Africa forum about all the buffalo you "brain shot" and then this past week you reveal you are 41 years old and say you haven't been to Africa in 20 years! Which means you were running around Africa in your late teens to earliest 20s, shooting everything that moved. Somehow I doubt you had the financial ability to do this. Somehow you claim to have killed half dozen of almost every animal in Africa, and yet you brought back no trophies or even so much as a photograph to back your claims. Amazing. And I made a total ass out of you over the suggested duplex load...clearly showing your real level of reloading experience was almost ZIPPO. Your stupidity had everyone rolling on the floor. (By the way, I'm still waiting for you to shoot them.) Have you ever noticed what the first thing everyone who REALLY goes to Africa does when they get back? Hint - They post their photos. And later they post their mounted trophies. Do you expect anyone to believe you are TOO MODEST? hahahaha. (I think I just said something very funny )And I haven't even scratched the surface of your lies and bullshit and phony claims and stories. So I would be a little cautious if I were you when it comes to bragging about all your "experiences" because none of them so far hold water. I could go on but the fact is painfully obvious that you are a chronic liar and pretender who MAY or MAY NOT actually own a few firearms. It's also obvious you will never change. You show your ignorance daily. Copying numbers and crap from books and claiming these are YOUR results only makes you look like a bigger ass and fraud. But you play your sick little games all you like. I've gotten were everytime I see one of your bullshit posts I want to puke. The only thing BIG you really own is your sick ego. | |||
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By the way, the last time I saw a BLACK PAINTED BAR, which is clearly what you have in the photo, it was a deactivated NON-FIRING DEMO weapon. Little wonder you don't want to discuss it on a public forum. The only way you could hurt anyone with your BAR would be to drop it on their foot. ![[Wink]](images/icons/wink.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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quote:Todd, Of late, I have seen that you are trying to be decent, and Rob has been a great guy to that point. I'll try to make the forums a better place, but I reserve the obligation to raise a flag, when I see one, based off MY experience and/or data. This is a normal course of action when facts are refuted, and one generally finds out that the methodology can be at fault. The run of at the mouth (raises hand.. yep, I am guilty) without asking first, is, to misquote wildwild west.. "shoot first, shoot second, shoot some more, and if anyone is still alive, ask a question or two" As long as you are willing to be refuted, and accept that others can be "more right" than you, I am willing to let this past... However, if I have something I think is dead wrong, I'll state it. If you can't deal with that, then ignore me, if you can, then fine. But, since this board has it's share of POSeurs, I'll be of the first to jump up and say "i've seen it different." And ask, as the posts are PUBLIC and the data can be misleading/wrong/odd ... I hold myself to the same standards, and instantly back off, when proven wrong. This is an issue that strikes me funny, as the "majority" is seldom "right", remember that an "A" is only awarded to the top 10 percent, while the majority get a C. happy holidays jeffe | |||
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Question for Todd Getzen Todd, I have been wondering for quite a while. Are you also a Todd E? ie ToddE has used the aliases ToddE & TEG Amongst probably a dozen others. Is it a coincidence that you have the same initials as TEG / Todd Getzen and come from the same place? Are you talking to yourself? Any buddy who knows? | |||
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500AHR- I for one am glad you own at least one big bore.Although you bought both of those guns and have done nothing to them yourself other than mount the scope( you'll be sorry on that one sooner or later). I frankly don't even mind if you embellish the truth a little, as It adds some spice. I do mind when you send that Stooge AXEL to harass us. I don't for one understand what that accomplished other than making you look really stupid. In fact, I doubt you are stupid, but stunts like that go way beyond rational to my thinking. If your sincere about turning over a new leaf, I for one will treat you with respect. However, one 500 AHR puts you very far from gods gift to AR and some humility and respect on your part would be appropriate. All the folks who post here deserve and should expect to be treated with respect. -Rob | |||
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Rob, You have spoken (or more accurately written) wisely and you are right. I did not have to do anything to my 500 AHR to make it work right. It was perfect right out of the box. You are right again in that I need to work on my humility. Humility, after all is a virtue, so that makes it a good thing. I think AR can help me improve my humility and reduce my blatant arrogance. You are yet again correct in that everyone should be treated with the utmost respect. Finally, you are correct since I have only one big bore I really do not know very much about these guns. This statement is particularly true, due to the fact, that I did not build my 500 AHR, just bought it. Can you explain to me why the scope will break due to the current mounting? The lense is located at the muzzle end of the ring currently. If I move it forward (I have 3/8" I can move it forward before the rear ring hits) I cannot see through the scope due to excessive eye relief. So I guess I may well be screwed. Any ideas? [ 11-29-2002, 05:56: Message edited by: 500 AHR ] | |||
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Ignore the Poseur or perpetuate the piles of steaming crap. POSeur: Run, fight or suck eggs! Those are the only choices in life. You have chosen to be an egg sucker. If you were a dog, you would need to be shot, down on the farm. | |||
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quote: ![[Eek!]](images/icons/shocked.gif){kind=icon} After a year of bullshit, he finally admits what we always knew! Somebody pinch me. I'm dreaming. | |||
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pecos-a year? Can I ask how YOU would know? I see your member number has only been here since may of this year. hmmm. who did you used to be? | ||
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Pecos45, Why don't we cut this horse shit out and see if the POSeur will die? | |||
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Daggaron - You've got mail. | |||
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quote:BMFH/Todd E/500 AHR - Do you know how to search? Ask your wife to show you how, Todd, since she is clearly the brains in your household. ![[Roll Eyes]](images/icons/rolleyes.gif){kind=icon} | |||
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500 AHR- The foreward lense is covered by the scope mount per your picture. In order to keep the scope from moving under recoil you will need to tightened it considerably. The radial compression spreads out the inner lense mounting rings and eventually under recoil the lense will crack. mounted this way, I'm frankly surprised its lasted more than a few full power shots. Leupold I believe is quite explicit about this on their website. The scope looks like a VariXIII from the picture. I would move the scope foreward as much as possible and then back-out the focusing bell. The only other option is to mill back the foreward ring. With Warne or Talley Rings you can mill enough back to resolve the problem. I've had two VariX III's break when mounted on CZ550's, before I learned this trick and I'm just passing on the info. While I like Leupold scopes, thruth be told you don't have this problem with Swarovski 1.25-4's as the tube is more than long enough for a magnum mauser action.-Rob | |||
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quote:I wish one of the 'quality' manufacturers would make a 1 1/2 x 6 x 36 in a tuff scope specifically for large action rifles. Something that would have a long tube and wouldn't require off set rings and would mount low down. Just a dream I suppose. | |||
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quote:confused the BAR and the 405? the 416 rigby? jeffe | |||
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NitroX, I am not Todd E, or anyone else. I am simply Todd Getzen, initials TMG as I have indicated in the past. I am one of the few here who openly uses my real name, why, because I don't talk BS and have nothing to hide. Todd | |||
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Jeffeosso, I don't understand why you are confused. Read Robgunbuilders posts, he explains the entire situation well. | |||
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quote:Mickey, I bought a Zeiss Diavari-ZA 1.5x-6x42mm for my 'heavy' rifle, a .470 Capstick. Zeiss has assured me in writing, that the scope will hold up to the 74ft.-lbs. of recoil that the rifle generates. George | |||
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quote: George, Does the tube have enough adjustment for the long action? I have a rail mount 1.5 x 6 Ziess and it looks like it would be too close between the bells. I also have a S&B 1.75x4 on a Winnie .375. It fits with custom Kimber style rings (30mm tube). It focuses the front sight out to 2x and is really distracting. | |||
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Mickey, I'll check that and let you know. Mine doesn't have a rail. Why don't you take a Dremel cutoff wheel to that rail so you can use conventional mounts? George | |||
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quote:Ouch, Actually, I was thinking of getting claw mount bases for it as it came with the claws. I have a .404 that my eyes won't let me see the front sight of anymore. | |||
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Todd Getzen, OK. Just wondered. | |||
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quote:just wanted this quote preserved in a forum. jeffe [ 01-04-2003, 06:51: Message edited by: jeffeosso ] | |||
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