I have found a 416 Rem for sale here locally and was wondering if its a big enough step up in power to get it over the 375 H$H. THe main intention of this rifle would be for bear hunting, I don't see myself heading to africa any time soon. Whats a decent comparison between the two, is the 416 really that much more power.

Also what would be a decent price for a blued Rem 700 with HS precision stock with EAW quick detach rings? Does 700 seem reasonable?

On this forum you are mostly going to get suggestions to stay away from Remington on a rifle intended for use on Dangerous Game because of the lack of controlled round feeding (CRF). Some people consider bears as dangerous game. As for power, yes it is considerably more powerful in those areas that count, ie. Momentum, sectional density.

I haven't shot as much game with the 416 Rem. Mag. as I have the 375 H&H, but I assure you, the 416 is a significantly bigger hammer, and well-worth owning. The Cape buffalo in my signature photo was taken with a single shot from a 416 Rem., and that bull dropped in his tracks as soon as the bullet hit him.

The 416 Rem. Mag. has slowly become one of my favorite cartridges. It bridges the gap between 375 and 458 perfectly, plus you can have a reasonably light, handy rifle in 416 Rem. that doesn't kick nearly as bad as the bigger 45s, plus it shoots flatter than those cartridges as well. As a bonus, the 416 Rem. Mag. can be amazingly accurate, and it doesn't seem to be all that fussy about loads.

As $700 price tag is reasonable for that rifle as you've described it. I'd just make certain that it shoots well and has not feeding issues before you make the deal.

AD

I bought a 416 after owning a 375 for 10 years or more. I still carry the 375 and the 416 is still NIB, go fiqure,lol. Seriously, it is a much better cartridge but the 375 will kill anything up here with power to spare.

The Remington extractors was one thing I was worrying about. There is a gunsmith up here that will replace the remington extractor from one off an AR15 bolt. I was looking at his conversion and it does look quite a bit beefier than the rem extractor. He claims it to be a lot stronger than the sako style extractor that everyone else uses. Anyone ever seen one of these conversions?

Another consideration is that for about the same price as buying this rifle I can get my Win 70 classic made into a swich barrel and have both the 375 and 416 on the same action.


Maybe that would be a better way to go.

I've always thought that the 30-06, 338WM and the 375H&H were all three incredible rounds w/ each having very broad uses/applications. Someone on this board, I don't recall who, described the overlap of the three this way:

The 30-06 goes farther down the scale on smaller game than the 375H&H, but the 375H&H covers the top end well beyond the 30-06. The 338WM will cover the bottom end of the scale almost as well as the 30-06 but will also just about reach the top end w/ the 375H&H. The 338WM is a big hammer but not quite as hard hitting as the 375H&H.

The 416Rem is another example of one of the better rounds out there, but I don't think of it as having quite the broad use/application as any of the above three. But make no mistake, 400gr @ 2400fps is a very big and effective hammer if the shooter can handle it. A 30-06 or a 338WM combined w/ a 416Rem would be an excellent two gun combo that should cover all the bases anywhere. But everyone should have at least one 375H&H because they are like bread and butter.

Gary

bear, what ever you do dont get rid of your 375!

I am on the same dilema. Good luck with this decision.

Hmmm, just thought of something else. Pending where you are at, you may want a stainless stell rifle. Weather can have some really bad effects and it only takes one time. See which one you can get in stainless and maybe that will help you some.

You can read my post in the medium bore forum about my unhappiness with Remington triggers up here in Alaska during freezing temperatures. Even though I have a Rem 700 in 375 and 416, both from there Custom shop and in stainless I wont build another Remington for big game in Alaska ever again.

Have to agree. The more I get into guns, the more I dislike remington weapons.

My winchester classic is stainless in 375. Stainless is the only way to go on an alaskan rifle. Especially if your going to be hunting near the salt.

I had the same rifle from Remington about 4 years ago. I beleive it was called a Big Game (it was on the barrel).

I liked it didn't weigh much, kicked hard, shot good. I would hunt bears with it.

I bought it in Anchorage when I lived in Barrow. It sat in the rifle holder in my police car when I was on patrol. I always figured 3 rounds of 416 Remington into a Nanook was better than 8 Brenneke slugs.