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Sights on a DGR
17 November 2004, 23:04
WinkSights on a DGR
My CZ 550 in 416 Rigby is still a work in progress but I would love to know what others have done to improve the iron sights. The other day at my gun club we did a rapid fire drill for big bores and I had a hard time finding the front sight (too small), especially with the black bull's eye on our targets. A buff would be black as well so there is definite need for a change there. ANy suggestions?
17 November 2004, 23:18
NsiroTake a look at the sights from ERA - Recknagel, they are first quality products, a bit expensive but well worth the money.
They have express type rear sights with multiple leafs, and a H&H style front sight (with two diferent size beads) that should look and work real good on your rifle.
Check theyr web sight at
ERA - Recknagel .
I�ve a catalog, if you can�t get one I�ll send you some pictures of the sights I refer to.
Cheers,
N. Rodrigues
18 November 2004, 00:19
WinkThank you Nsiro, I do have the Recknagel catalog. None of their products would seem to be simple exchanges for the CZ factory sights and would require some gunsmithing. Given the relative popularity of the CZ rifles for big bores, I am suprised no one makes back and front sites which would fit the back dovetail and front insert. Maybe another AR member will be able to lead me in that direction.
18 November 2004, 10:36
jeffeossoNECG front sights "can" fit a CZ.. just require a bit of filing and reshaping on the end towards the muzzle.
jeffe
18 November 2004, 07:42
30ott6Take a look at Brockman's pop up rear peep sight. Very quick target acquisition. Brownells carries them and you can see one at Brockman's website. Really makes a difference on being able to see the front sight. Don't know if it will work for you as it is designed with Talley bases that are included with it.
18 November 2004, 08:40
fredj338I have the exc. NECG banded front w/ the flip up "night site". It's just a large white bead, but very fast w/ a shallow 'V' express rear. I'll see if I have any pics of mine on the .404.
www.newenglandcustomgun.com/18 November 2004, 10:29
KevHI,
WINK,I just got my cz 416 Rigby from MR. Bockman, I have a quick release scope on it and when it comes off I have Brockman pop up ghose ring that comes up . It is really a great set-up. I have not even shot it yet as I moved to AK and will have to build on my land so I can get room to reload. I talk to him and they told me it was one of the most accurate rifles that they shot,which makes me more eager to get room to reload and shoot it. Kev
18 November 2004, 11:11
huntingcatI modified my CZ 550 sight base to accept the NECG fluorescent front beads. It works just fine for old eyes. The modification requires remilling the dovetail groove and notching the front on the insert to allow the CZ insert retainer plunger to pop into place.
18 November 2004, 12:17
ErikDWhat would the advantages/disadvantages be between the "Sourdough" front sight, a normal silver bead, and a regualur black post? And what do you guys prefer?
"Sourdough":

Silver bead:

Erik D.
18 November 2004, 12:51
cducatWink- save yourself a whole lot of expense. For very few $ my local gunsmith drills out a brass rod and fits it onto a CZ foresight element (a range of heights can be obtained direct from CZ) -result - a matchhead sized brass bead - very traditional and highly visible. You can have the factory express sight trimmed down if you want more elegance there - once again very traditional and highly functional. Just my $0.02 worth. Also the NECG 'Ruger' foresight elements fit with very little filing but imho the bead (white)is not big enough. Charlie
19 November 2004, 02:45
WinkCharlie,
Good ideas, I'll try one of them out. Thanks to all for your suggestions.
19 November 2004, 02:47
WinkKev,
Any chance of a photo of your rig?
Wink
19 November 2004, 05:10
AtkinsonIf you want a fast sight then go with the Sourdough front sight as pictured combined with a Ghost ring peep sight..I also like the Brockman Peep coordinated with a scope of low power....otherwise I would just use a Receiver sight with the apature screwed out...Redfield, Lyman or Williams..I prefer the Williams as curious hands can't mess it up. Another good option is the Talley peep sight that slides on his rear base..I have several of those..
Also the best bead sight out there today is the Brownells captapiller for the Ruger 77 with a 3/32 ivory bead..Its for a Ruger but I found that a little judicous file work will make them work fine on most catapiller sight ramps..
I distrust the pop up nite sights as the ivory has a habit of falling out in time and its really too big...
19 November 2004, 06:06
KevHI,
WINK,I will do my best to get a pic,I have to go through my enclosed trailor,to get it out and I will get a pic,This is why I cannot wait to build on my land so I will have room to reload and room for safe,guns,I have little room here now, until I build, I am working on getting a road and pad put in now.I am glad I had MR.Brockman rust-proof it as I have beachfront ,Kev
19 November 2004, 06:37
HunterJimQuote:
What would the advantages/disadvantages be between the "Sourdough" front sight, a normal silver bead, and a regualur black post? And what do you guys prefer?
Erik D.
Erik,
Ah that question takes me back to the gun and hunting writings of the 1940s. The silver bead will have you shooting to the light source as the bead will be brighter toward the light. The sourdough eliminates that problem, and the angled flat catches the light.
Actually you have to match the front sight and the rear sight with irons so they are complementary. I like to use a post with a ghost ring rear because it gives the finest elevation control.
jim