Jeffe

Thanks pefect timing ive roughed things out now I got some measurements to use. Things are just tacked will weld things up good when she feeds.

man it dont fit

Little this little that slips right in





I tacked her with a stick those will get milled off and the entire box will get tig welded in the end.

Dean,
PacNor is a good choice (i.e., that's what I have on mine ).

George

Dean,

The screw holes can be filled (TIG welded, I think).

Have you decided on bullets yet? Monometals? Conventional bullets? 'Solids' only, or 'softs' as well?

George

george
i mig welded the holes in this weekend. gonna mill the ears off soon. I will start makeing the mag box bigger this week.
Im gonna oder some 500 grain bullets was looking at the swifts or wanted to check on bridger bullets but not sure if he is in buisness yet. 470 nitro exp bullets work ok?
Dean

Tonto, if you want flat nose solids (Bridger) to feed in your gun, you need to start with them including determing mag box width, taper and depth based on the flat nosed solids. Once that is done, round noses and pointed bullets should all feed without a problem, but the opposite is not the case. I know, having been through the saga of getting a mauser in 470 cap to feed flat noses. But now it works like a dream and I cannot wait to hear the SLAP! of that flat nose hitting a big fatty hippo in the shoulder.

500gr
how did you get bridgers the websight still doesnt work is he in buisness yet?
dean

Are you going to use lighter bullets for deer size game, to keep in practice like a lot of us do? Ed.

Ed

I will most likely use the light(400gr) rounds the most. I will mostly shoot paper and such with it as I mostly am building it to learn more about building a rifle. I took a buff and elephant last year(with a 458winmag that I restocked and ect) and doubt ill make it back for a bit. The boys are starting school so dads gonna be poor.

When I get set to fire her I hope to get some goods loads from you all. I got a can of rl15 I didnt use in the 458?

Dean

84.0 grains IMR4064, 500 grain Woodleigh soft or solid, or 500 g. Trophy bonded soft or solid, or 500 grain GS Custom FN solid.

I am playing with Bridger solids using 3031.

Dean,

For real fun, and cheap shooting, pick up one of Lee's 400 gr 475" molds. 15-20 grs of Unique should poop it out around 1200-1500 fps, gets you blackpowder 45-70 performance. The neat thing about the mild slower loads is, you can hear a great big wap a split second after it hits a cardboard target backer out at 100 yds.

That reminds me, I need a belling die for the .470 Capstick so I can shoot some paper-patched cast bullets someone was kind enough to send me.

George

Tonto, if you PM the Old Man On The Hill, MR. Atkinson, he can probably give you the phone number for Bridger Bullets. I had it somewhere and can't find it right now. Got CRS, oh don'tchaknow.

Ray probally wouldnt answer me I picked on him said he was old fashioned and set in his ways
I ordered dies from ch4d they had them in stock!
Dean

Tonto, I emailed you the phone no. Hope you got it.

Tonto- Numrich arms sells a sheet metal mag box for the enfield for about $15 that will help significantly. You can bend and mig weld one yourself but why bother. Your main problem will be in the feed ramp area. Be carefull and remove only the minimum amount of metal to make it feed. You may have to mill out some of the ramp to get the feed angle correct. The bottom of the action will also have to be milled and you will have lots of problems holding the action parallel in your milling vise. You may also have to cut back into the trigger spring hole area to get enough clearance for the 470 capstick with solids to fit. If you want, E-mail me and I have some directions for you. I built a 470 MBOGO on an Enfield a few years ago and I'll be happy to provide some guidance.-Rob

500gr thanks got the #.
Rob I think ill order that box. I was going to try just moving the ends of my box to the outside edge of the box sides and make it so the box ends would butt up flush with the bottom of the action instead of tucking into the front and back ends of the action.(hope that made sense) looked like I would gain enough lenght for the round(i was using a 458lott with a barnes Super solid to calc) but I wasnt sure the box would be wide enough.
I shoot you an email when I get the box. I also ordered the cock on open and trigger kit.
Dean
Ps any of that dirty dozen want to sell 10 or so 600OK brass.

Tonto.
The p-14 bolt is "overkill" for a "mere" 470 capstick... unless you just might take it to 470 trollbane or something like that.

Rob,
I didn't like the "300 weatherby/hh" mag from numrich (www.gunpartscorp.com) ... it's rather filmsy and wanted too much taken off the front. Then again, that was for the 500.

i found, if you have the riveted box, that you can cut the rivets off with a grinder/dremel, and turn the front and rear section around, and, in my case, solder them together to make a good MULE box, while you figure out the final dims. Mule, in this case, is the same as in town... it's ugly, you can ride it or work it, but it's not what you want, really....

The capstick is a great round... run it at 470 nitro velocities, and it will kill anything

jeffe

Dean,
If you take the ends off, sand/file/mill (wrong order) them flat, shim them to proper width and tack weld it together, you'll only need to cut a HAIR off the back of the action.

Jim wiser is a genius on the feeding... He says, in a nutshell,with a 1/4 or 3/8 ball to set your mill at 8-10degrees tilt (i like 8) and your vise at 2-4 degreee (i like 2, can cut more later) you can make the rails feed perfect. I am playing with this right now, on my BP

with your mag setup like he says , i told you in the email, you can slip it in (grind off the tabs) and then take a carbide scribe, and mark the rails.... this will be the width (more or less, start with less) and length you need to trim the INSIDE rails..

You are on your own for cutting the tops... measure ALOT, cut A LITTLE and keep trying.

You can write jim about the article and he's send you a copy... works GREAT just remember, the article if for rigby and gibbs, so you'll need to do all your own measurements.

After you make the box work, you may wind up just getting a piece of sheet steel, and cutting to the measurements like mine... it'll look better, and be thinner, which you'll find is an issue on inletting.

Would you mind posting the dimensions for your rig ? The one I made only cuts to 700 rem, and I want the model 30 look... I had borrowed one, and didn't measure it.

Jeffe

Jeffe
I like your mill its very similar to what I am working with.
What I did so far was take the inside box demensions off my 458 winmag, Adding the length for the capstick and about 15 to 20 thousand to the width thats what I used for inside demensions, I then cut out the peices of 1/8 inch stock. That gives me some metal to mill off the inside or out side to make it thinner when it feeds right. It also makes the box sides even with the sides of the action.The tabs are gone ill take a bit off the back but I dont think I need it.Tomorrow I will mill out the mag follower. I am trying to make the mag and ect similar to my markx 458 as it feeds perfect! I have the idea to mill out a slightly pregnate lid Might get a bunch off shells in the box.
What measurements to you want? Ill look into that article and my inside box comes very close to what you sent.
Thanks Dean

Guys I was wondering what kind of velosities can be obtained with the 470 Capstick give what ever bullet weights you want with a 24 in barrel or whatever. I've been thinking and thats dangerous. I've been a lurker here but may come out.

Brian

Brian,
you can "beat" 470 nitro with it

jeffe

Jeff, thanks for that info. I am just getting the idea of this round but would like some loads you guys have? thanks again. I am real interested in this one but don't have any real reason to shoot it do to most likely wont go to africa but maybe some day I will. My wife said she would go with me and sounds like fun but need to save for now. About the onle thing I could use it for around here is the odd rogue buck. LOL . But I always wanted to own a big bore. I am thinking this is the one.

Brian