Just curious where the Taylor falls in the recoil spectrum, when loaded to equal the original 416 Rigby. In my opinion, it's a little less than the 458 WM, but neither is unmaganageable. My Taylor is much less punishing than a max loaded 300 Win Mag, for example - the "push" is probably stronger, but lacks the sharp jab.

How about vs. the old standard 375 H&H, and big ones like 470 and 500J?

Todd

My 416 Rem Mag, shooting 400 gr in Model 70 is much more punishing than my 470 NE double using 500 gr Woodleigh.

The 416 has a mercury tube and weighs 8oz more than the 470.

Jim

Depends totally on gun weight, stock design, recoil pad and w/o muzzel break. IMHO all the .416 rounds inclyding the WBY are easy to shoot and recoil is absolutely no problem. My 130lb wife can shoot a properly designed 460wby and does so regularly!
Now put that .416 taylor cartridge in a 6lb mountain gun with a fiberglass stock, steel butt plate, skimpy pad etc. and it will kick you into the next century.-Rob

If the gun fits then the size of the case and bullet will determine the recoil, the bigger the case and bullet, the meaner the recoil, plain and simple with one exception...The long sloping cases do not have the "snap" that the improved or high degree shoulder versions have.

Snap is a big issue with me, it makes my Copenhagen come out of my lip and into my scope lens.

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Ray,
Ray front or rear lens?
Bryan

My gun is around 8.5 pounds, or so the bathroom scale says (but it lies to me every morning, so I don't quite trust it). It has a straight classic style stock, w/ a D550 Decelerator recoil pad.

Maybe I'll have to try one of the CZ-550 Rigbys. Those stocks look a little more unfriendly for recoil...

Todd

Todd

My former 9 lb .340 Wby was a noticeably sharper kicking brute (especially for muzzle whip) than my .458 Win Brno 602 (10 lbs). The meanest kicking gun I have ever fired was a .45-70 Ruger No. 1 loaded hot with 400 gr Speer FNs at 2175 fps (7.25 lbs). Nothing has ever come close to that punishment. It left nasty bruises and partially paralyzed my right arm once. No one but me would ever fire that load more than once. I managed 13 shots on one day. Most days 8 was the limit. I have shot the .375 H&H prone and found that to be no big deal from a standard Brno 602 with aMonte Carlo cheekpiece. I just bought a Ruger .416 Rigby but haven't gotten to shoot it yet. The hardest kickers so far have been overstuffed cases running high pressures in too light rifles. I like (relatively) light rifles so maybe its a case of too hot loads?

Ray,
You must have looked pretty "snappy" back when you had that ultra-light .505, eh?

todd getzen, get a cz. i just went from a 7.62x39 to 458 wm in the cz. litteraly i have shot a m-70 30-06 with 180 gners that has more recoil. the humpback stock seems to manage recoil very well. no real muzzle climb, nor any hard straight back kick. i only shot this rifle 20 times the first day out, but if i had more ammo, i would have shot more. 12 gauge shotguns with 3" mags have tremendously more felt recoil. and nobody seems to mind shooting 2-3 boxes of goose loads a day. i know i'm just a lightweight beginner in the big bore arena, BUT i am definatly having fun. hope this helps a little. halfbreed

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overkill? how much more dead, is dead, than dead?