Anybody here used the Weaver K series 2.5x on a big bore? I might try one on my 375. I like weavers, have 2 of the new model 6x on rifles and probably 3 of the old steel 4x scopes in use. Have been happy with them. Think it will hold up to recoil well?

Thanks

Red

Not personally, but I know a guy who has and it worked fine and held up. He's using a Leupold now, just cause the optics are much better than what you'll find in an older K series Weaver. I'm using a Burris Fullfield 1x4 LER on my Siam Mauser 45/70. Put that baby on there and you'll find out.

Yes, I think they will hold up well; I have three that I've been using on .375, .416 Rigby, and a .458 Lott. Mine have been sent to ElPaso and cleaned and checked out.

I am thinking about the new ones. they make them again, still listed as k series. 122 bucks from Midway, cheaper than leupold.

I like fixed power scopes, once I set them I rarely mess around with them on the variables anyways. There was a Leu. in the classifieds today but I was too late seeing it.

thanks fellas.

Red

When they were first released about 10 year ago I sent 2 back to the distributor with cracked lenses. Neither lasted more than 40 rounds on my 458WM. The third one I received went onto a 30/06 and was fine. I would not buy one again full-stop. The Leupold 2.5x when all is said and done is a superior product in everything but price, but then it cost me time and money to resight after another Weaver failure. They may have been toughened up in the mean time but once bitten twice shy in my case.
Cheers...
Con

Red,

There was a discussion a while back about Weaver scopes on the 416 Rigby. I'm not sure what caliber you were planning to use it on, but more than a few guys either used them in the past or are still using them. Below is the link to that thread. Sorry about jumping on that Leupold 3x in the classifieds.

Weaver 2.5x on 416 Rigby


Craig

Spend the extra pennies and get the leupold 2.5x, i have one it is a great scope.

cheers 338w

I used an old Weaver K 2.5 on my ruger # 1 45-70, which I later sold because I was trying to make a 458 out of it. I loaded some pretty hot loads, 405 grains at over 2000, and it stood them. I plan to put it on my 416 Talyor I recently put together and try it there. I would like a Leupold vwII 1x5, but will have to wait til I canm afford it. I will keep you posted on results.

Good luck and good shooting,
Eterry

Hi,
I use an old Weaver K 2.5 on my Husqvarna 9,3x62. The scope is mounted in a Suhler Einhaksmontage (claw mount)and it works very well for me.

I think that the Weaver K 2.5 was the Norwegian Finn Aagards favoutite scope on his .375 H&H.

Husky

I have one on my #1 in 45-70, and it has held up to very stout loads.

eterry, wow everybody is getting Taylors. I would really like to see some pics.

Craig, no problem, it was better that you got it, as I shouldn't be spending so much money anyways. I also shouldn't be eating this giant piece of cake, but I obviously have poor impulse control. :-)

Thanks all. I appreciate it.

Red

The old weaver 2.5 and the new Weaver 2.5 will hold up fine on the 375 and probably the 416..

I have seen more than a few Weavers trashed into rattling junk on the 458 Lott, but I have seen some very expensive scopes trashed with the Lott also...especially if you have a muzzle brake, that makes the problem 10 fold bad on a scope....

I understand David Miller has a box full of trashed scopes from the 458 Lott..I know I have trashed quite a few with the Lott and the 505...Most scopes seem to last 10 to 250 rounds and give up the ghost..The exception being the 2.5 Leupold Compact with the adjustments under the turrets, it seems to take a lick'en and keep on tick'en....

Ray,

You wrote: "I have seen some very expensive scopes trashed with the Lott also...especially if you have a muzzle brake, that makes the problem 10 fold bad on a scope...."

Got any idea why a rifle with a muzzle brake would pound a scope harder than a rifle without?

Thanks.

Well, it could be the blast directed back towards the scope, depending on the brake design and orientation. Or it could be the g forces of being pulled forward, that a scope isn't really designed for. Having said that, I've had a couple of the small power Weavers that I've moved around on a few big bores (358 Winchester to 375 Wby to 450 Ackley), and so far they;'ve stood up very well. I've also had very good luck with the old Weaver 1-3X variables on big bores. FWIW - Dan

I"ve used the old steel tube on 375-458-416-505 and never had the first problem

I don't know anything about this, and I don't want to misdirect the thread, but I wonder what those with extensive experience (Ray and others) have seen the Burris scopes with the locking adjustments (Posi-Lock) do on rifles that are hard on scopes. Do they break the crosshairs, or the optics, or does the adjustment start walking? Just curious. It would be interesting to see if once you are out in the field where your bread does land jelly-side-down whether the feature represents a real advance or if that advantage (?) is imperceptible amongst the other misfortunes that befall a scope. Are the Burris Signature Safari Scopes with Posi-Lock just a little bit more likely to keep running?

It's always fun to read Ray's posts whether you think he is right or wrong (shoot. when was he ever wrong? if you can reliably take elephant with .303 or .316 Rigby, I guess he must be right and we don't need those .505's...). They always read like cold, hard truth, and sometimes a splash of cold water on somebody else's fun.....

Happy July 4, everybody. In past years I have made an effort to get to a range on this day (what more important day to pull a trigger?), but today it is yard work and housework.

Dago Red
After a friend of mine had to send a Leupold 1.5x5 scope back 2 or 3 times Leupold told him to try the shotgun scope. He got one in 4x and had no more problems. The rifle was a 416 Rigby that he shot quite a bit for wild pigs.
However we are unsure if the shooting or the riding on the 4 wheeler was the real cause of the scope failure.Either way the shotgun scope cured the problem.

I've heard several people say that a brake is hard on scope however for the life of me I find that confusing since a brake reduces recoil which is basically acceleration of the firearm being slowed, seems to me if it is easier on me the same should hold for the scope.
I know there are two separate recoils, internally and externally generated, one from the acceleration of the bullet within the barrel and the second being for lack of a better word "jet Blast" when the projectile leave the barrel. the brakes redirects some if not all of the external blasts to a harmless directions.
I shot a huge 50 BMG bolt action rifle a couple of times using military 750 grain ammo at 2700 FPS, ballistically this round generated approx 12,000 foot pounds of energy. Knowing that and having my own 458 and 375 at the time I thought I was in for a life experience. The guy that owned it challenged me to shoot it if I wanted to shoot a "REAL BIG BORE"", me being macho, replied I'll shoot anything as long as you shoot it first. With that the owner immediately accepted the challenge but removed a somewhat small brake and screwed on what I would classify a shoe box on the end of the barrel, now this rifle combo weighed a reported 36 pounds. The fellow shot it once and all I recall was the tremendous turbulence created around the gun and all the way down the range I suspect from the huge bullet traveling at such high speed, I was standing directly behind the guy and my eye and ear protection was literally blown off me, I said to my self what did I get myself in for.
I shot it twice and you are literally in the eye of the storm when you shoot it, you can feel the internal recoil and then the secondary recoil is totally removed and starts to cancell the primary since the rifle pulled forward in my hand, recoil was like a small caliber except the noise and turbulence makes it unpleasant. Long story short a brake that works klike this one did has to make it easier on the optics.
By the way if you ever get a chance to shoot one of these big boys do it but make sure there is a "buster brown" on the end of the barrel.

I'm thinking of it for my 375, the 458, which I probably am not going to get finished until end of next year some time, is being setup for open sites only. I am still in my late twenties so these eyes had better hold up for a while yet. Of course, sititng in front of computers 8 hours a day doesn't help any, I really need to find a job with parks and recreation :-)

Red

Well I will try to explain why the brakes are hard on guns in big bore caliber...

Now keep in mind that a BB gun will trash the best scope in the world, thats why they make scopes for BB guns...the recoil in a BB gun is backwards to that of a powder rifle...Keep that in mind..

A brake makes recoil go in both directions! got it, so the reverse recoil, like that of a BB gun trashes the scope under the stresses set up by the big bore rifles..the cross hairs break, the scope literally come apart inside..They rattle like a bb in a boxcar.

For those that don't have these troubles, its because you stand your big bores in the closet and do not shoot them much is my opinnion, When you make statements like I never have trouble with mine, I take that with a grain of salt....A big bore like a 458 Lott or 505 Gibbs with a muzzle brake, will trash about any scope within 20 to 250 rounds give or take...they will be less likly to do this without a the brake, but even without the brake you are prone to scope damage internally sooner or later and it could happen at the most inopertune moment, so it is well advised to be aware...With these big bores I will use a Receiver sight or shallow v sights only...

However, the Leupold 2.5X has proven to be the answer to the problem thus far, the location of the adjustments is the secret to their success...

I do not know if the Burris with the locks works or not, but I do know the eye releif is too short for me, thats why I can't say how it would stand up to recoil...

Sometimes I can get a little testy with folks on this subject but better I get testy than you get tromped, clawed or et..

I put a brand new out of the box Leupold V II 1 to 4 on my 458 which has a break on it and it never put a bullet in the same place twice or even close till I put another scope on it, it seems to me it broke on the first shot, I thought I had the worst shooting big bore in the midwest, it now shoots tight patterns. I have procrastinated about sending it back but when I do I will reinstall it to see if she break again. So Ray you may have hit it on the head, the scope thats takin the recoil is a bushnell 3200 2-7 and it has about 100 rounds so far.