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As I recall, this was posted and discussed previously. I think we decided that it had possibilities for 'shotgun only' areas but that perhaps gauge restrictions might be the limiting factor. | ||
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I would think this is the correct forum to post this. Of course this is wrong on ethical and moral levels but, just the same I'd love to try this just once!!! There is just something about needing "crime scene or blasting area" flag tape in my day pack that screams adventure!!! And look at the Van-damage 6 - .69 cal balls did to that buck!! ...Oh that had to hurt!!! | |||
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Now if we really want to get technical, how about screw in choke tubes? | |||
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When I was in the esteemed Alabama State Militia Artillery , the Alabama Battery (also called the 4th Indiana when we were portaying Union), we progressed from friction primers to simply precussion system that allowed for the use of .22 blanks to a version of the .22 blank system that used a spring-loaded lockwork held open by a pin attached to the lanyard. We never tried it when i was there, but I am sure that the lanyards could be attached so that all 6 tubes (yes, we were a Battery) could be fired at once by one man... useful for when the Carabou are on the move.... | |||
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Quote: they have nice eletric primer devises for this small rockets kits. | |||
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oldsarge - Sorry, I just thought you guys might enjoy it. | |||
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Allen, I normally have a lot of time for what you have to say but this time you can stick your self-righteous bullshit up your ass. That was not an easy thing to pull off by any definition. It took at least as much skill as any tree-blind archery hunter to get the right position and the timing down. And if you look closely at the hits, that deer died on the spot. What the hell is the difference between this and tree blind (or any other ambush or driven hunting style) hunting? I could go on and on but maybe I misunderstood your post (not!). | |||
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Allen, I guess between this punk - who is a liar to boot - and the 400+ yd elk thread, we just don't belong in the hunting world anymore. That guy was not only illegal as hell, but also NOT in Wisconsin, and probably did not shoot that buck with canon (those bullet holes are both too uniformly spread out, and lack the bruising of a real bullet hole (I shoot a lot of deer with big roundballs. I know what the bullet holes look like). Why people on hunting lists everywhere think this is a hoot, is beyond me, but I don't have a good feeling about the future of hunting. This guy will one day team up with the dude that has the on-line-shoot'em over bait "hunt" in TX. How sad indeed. Brent | |||
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Brent, that site has been up for a year that I know of, maybe more. If illegal, that is an admission of guilt by its existence on the web and Wisconsin has taken no action? I think not. That it might be pure fabrication is possible but I don't know that your round ball experience is extensive enough to judge what is posted. Regardless, Allen suggests there is no sporting effort in how the event occurred and that is what I am contesting; probably the only time I've ever seen Allen speak from a position of total ignorance. | |||
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I think the guy is pulling our legs. The whole page is written in a humorous vein, and I think his main goal is to sell cannons. George | |||
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tiggergate, If you think that's sporting than the Texas guy selling online hunt is for you. Maybe he can rig up a cannon for you too. What a joke. The photos are quite obviously NOT in Wisconsin. Brent | |||
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Triggertate, I'll stand by what I said and if that fits the definition of a self-righteous position that I can stick where the sun doesn't shine, then so be it. AD | ||
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Tigertate, I am with Allen and company on this, I just don't consider that ethical or legal hunting in any since...Furthermore I don't believe a word of this guys story.. | |||
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Quote: triggertate , I suppose the statement above applies to me as well, because I see it as sick as well! Simply because it takes some effort to do, doesn't make it ethical, or,in fact, legal! I assure it would not be legal in Texas. This is just a big shotgun, and there is a limit, in most states, on shotgun bore size, and that is 10 ga in Texas. BUCK SHOT IS ILLegal here as well. I have no idea what the rules are in Wis, but I doubt the action taken here is legal there! Why don't we simply place clamore on the trees, and set them off when the deer come to feed! I say I have to agree with Brent, and Allen, and I suspect if someone posted a link of this to the game department in Wis. there might be a different story to post here in a month or two! I place this in the same context as the dip shits who use benches to shoot live elk at 1000 yds! Simply because you can hit a staionary 6" paper target at 1000 yds, does not justify shooting at a live animal at that distance! A paper target does not move, and the range is absolutely known. What happens if the animal takes a step at the same time the sniper pulls the trigger on a 1000 yd shot, and gut shoots the elk? He may not show any sign of being hit at all, and walk into the bush. I submit the type of creten who does this type of thing, will not go accross the canyon to see if he wounded that elk, but simply set up to shoot at the next one he sees. I see no difference in peppering the hilside with 1' lead balls, hopeing to hit your target,without wounding, and not hitting two or three in the bushes behind. If my disdane, for this type of activity, is objectional to you, then your suggestion above as to what can be done with that objection, applies to you as well! | |||
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You're right, George. This is a big joke. Those bullet holes are obviously faked. Too perfect and Brent's right, no bruising. This guy's just clowning around, albeit in bad taste. | |||
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Come on fellas, this is as "unethical" as using a scope on a new fangled centerfire rifle, using one of them unsportin' jacketed bullets... why, if it's not a smoothbore paperpatch roudball, without those cheatin' sights... why it's just not sportin' Would I do it? Probably not... Do i think it's DUMBFOUNDING that a fella could take a deer with a CANNON (legal in texas, btw, at least during muzzleloader season) Comparing it to the huntin' online is far off base... the man was THERE, was present, lugged the thang into position, loaded it, took the shot, and brought (not bought) home a deer. In fact, to tell ya the truth, I've seen more meat WASTED with a 7 remmag in the shoulder.... if, for ME (lowest to highest) , bow hunting ranks a 1 on my "sure shot, it's hit and going to die humanly" scale, long range shooing (over 300 yard certainly, 200 for me) is a 3 ME stalking and taking an animal in the field ranks a 8, this is about a 2.5 to 3.5..... Not for me, but then again, neither is bow or longrange "hunting" Ethical? That's the fella that pulled the triggers call... do *I* like the thought of endangering other hunters and/or game.... ranks right up there with 500+ yard shots to me... is it amazing? YEP In fact, I find it far less repugnant than some yayhoo with a mini14 banging away at deer... with FMJs So, it's not my cup of tea.. it's still amazing jeffe | |||
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I figured my post would get a lot of people going. I just don't care for armchair judging by folks that weren't there who want to decide for me or anyone else what's "too much gun", not sporting or any other assumption . Is the deer too dead? Common guys, its a either a joke as some suggest or a cleanly harvested deer in what by any account is a difficult set of circumstances to put in place. Anyone who ever took an animal over bait of any sort or set up on a trail to still hunt did pretty much the same thing only they could aim their rifle a hell of a lot easier. | |||
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