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Went to the Vintagers's shoot in Millbjrook New York this morning...Shot fairly good..Was satisfied for my first 16 shots...Going back tomorrow for the finals.. I saw from 500's to a 450/400 to a 8 Bore...Marty came from near Chicago to shoot with the 8bore and at 15 .5 lbs I am glad it is not me carrying it... You shoot a running buf coming down hill at an angle past you...You have a window of maybe 12 feet to get off 2 shots...I went for the head shot and gave him my first barrel and brained him..I led him around 6 inches for the next shot and damn it hit right where I aimed..So tomorrow no lead... There is a ele at station 1 standing at 40yds. Second station is a rhino moving right to left at 30yds. Third station is a timed shoooting event 3 targets from 40 to 20yds. How fast can you shoot and reload...I did shoot this part of the event in 20 seconds..not 18 my mistake The next was timed also a lion and you had to shoot 4 shots on him in less then 20 seconds... Final was the buf.... It was a lot of fun and looking forward to tomorrows event... Mike  lots of photos tomorrow...evening   Charging buf  Trying to hit!!!  This my buff you can see my shots..It is fun...  Shooting the ele...   Shooting pop up lion 4 shots 20 seconds..Mal MacGregor with safari hat and me shooting  6 shots 40yds, 30yds, 20yds 6 shots 2 at each...  2 shots right to left and 2 left two right  simba 4 shots   450#2 next to 8 bore casing...WOW!  8 Bore above my Champlin Famars... big gun, real big gun...  The owner Marty sharing that big rifle with me..  | ||
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Congrats and good luck in the finals. That sounds like a hoot. | |||
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Sounds like a great deal of fun Mike. If possible could you post some photos for us see how they are doing their range setup. Good luck with the finals. Frank | |||
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yeah, and get them to do a shoot out here in the west! What a hoot!!! Rich | |||
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If you are making 4 good shots in 18 seconds it is no wonder you won. Good show. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Will that was 6 shots in 18 seconds...40 yds, 30yds, and 20yds... Mike Heading out in about an hour.beautuful day here in he east 43 dregrees and sun shining.. | |||
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Go Get 'em Mike! Rusty We Band of Brothers! DRSS, NRA & SCI Life Member "I am rejoiced at my fate. Do not be uneasy about me, for I am with my friends." ----- David Crockett in his last letter (to his children), January 9th, 1836 "I will never forsake Texas and her cause. I am her son." ----- Jose Antonio Navarro, from Mexican Prison in 1841 "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." Thomas Jefferson Declaration of Arbroath April 6, 1320-“. . .It is not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself.” | |||
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SIX shots in 18 seconds? You're delusinary, old man!  Who needs a bolt action with results like that!  ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Will! That's what I have been trying to tell you for a long time!  | |||
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Yea, but Retreever probably cheated. He has ejectors? ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Bill, that ain't cheating...that's common sense. Rich | |||
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That Vintager's shoot appears to be a great tune-up for a big game hunt in Africa. Everything is set up for the doubles, it seems, but we bolt guys hit them good the first time,  Dak | |||
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I'd come down to Idaho in a heartbeat for that!! All I ever did was the 'running boar' target on the old continent. This sounds like a lot more fun! Can I use a replacement magazine on that 6-shots-in-18-seconds stage? Like the IPSC guys do?  Frans | |||
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Gentleman I have to correct my first post I shot 6 shots in 20 seconds ejectors!!! I did not win and shot with one of the repeat champions Mal McGregor this morning...He shot a 500/450 H&H...Just wanted to meet him and talk but ended up shooting with him...Very fluent with the rifle...Smooth as a babies butt in shooting and motions...Had pleasurable time shooting with a crack shot... I ended up with a score of 155 and winner shot 202 I believe... Picked my head off the gun twice and would stop shooting at the bulls and aim where you would on a live animal...But all in all a super experience..Have picks and have to upload them... Was privledged to hold a real peashooter an 8 bore made in 1887ish..Definately need a gun bearer with that monster... Mike  | |||
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I got the answer for the double barrel guys, Numrich is selling WWII surplus german "trench magazines" for the std length 98M. It is a 20 round box that replaces the stock floor plate...I can see about fifteen rounds of 375-338 Chatfield-Taylor, 375 Ruger or some other short big bore mag. Rich | |||
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Mike, Sounds like you did yourself proud. But I can only see the first pic! ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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retreever! I also can only see the first picture and would like to see the others. Perhaps you could send the pics to Terry and he will add them to your post. Thanks. 465H&H | |||
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Ditto, I can only see the first picture as well! Man Mike if you aren't careful you are going the be as well known around the country as Elmer Keith! Congratulations Mate! ....Mac >>>===(x)===> MacD37, ...and DUGABOY1 DRSS Charter member "If I die today, I've had a life well spent, for I've been to see the Elephant, and smelled the smoke of Africa!"~ME 1982 Hands of Old Elmer Keith  | |||
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Here is a link to the web album photos are at the end.. Mike http://picasaweb.google.com/retreever/TanzTest | |||
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now to find six other guys with a $100 dollar bill and make a set up like that for here. Could you tell me where they got those posters? Rich | |||
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Rich, I will get an answer for you.. Mike | |||
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Looks like it was a "blast." Some weird looking animal prints. I knew it....looks like that one shooter is wearing a wrist cartridge holder. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Will, that is Mal McGregor, he has won the Stopping shoot a few times and it is a custom made wrist velcro ammo holder holds 4 rounds... 500/450 H&H Mike | |||
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That looks like lots of fun! Take it a step further and make the targets in color. Double Rifle Shooters Society | |||
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Mike, I tried a three round wrist cartridge holder the last couple times to the range. Works a lot faster than a belt. Now all I need is a double rifle, WITH EJECTORS. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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It's not a custom shell holder Mike; just an "Uncle Mikes Sidekick". It worked great in the "stalking" competition where I shot the same course of fire [6 shots] with a single shot .375 in 18 seconds. I was able to stuff the .500/450 rounds into it also. It didn't work so well for my .577. High overall for the course was 212 shot by Jim Berdacki with his W.C. Scott .577. I shot a pair of 210s with my Gibbs .577 ejector and the H&H .500-450 extractor for second place. I think Jim shot a 196 with his second rifle, a .450-400. In the stalking competition, I shot a 186 with a Ruger #1 .375; and a 159 with my Evans .375 ejector double. Both scores were enough to take first. [Scoring is done differently on the stalking range and scores are generally lower.] Young Sam Saxton took second with a 156 shooting an Evans .280. All the best, SXS [Mal] | |||
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Did you find that answer? Inquiring minds want to know! ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Fellas did not get the answer but will post asap... Mike | |||
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thanks Mike, 465H&H and I area really looking forward to trying one here. That, or the Zimbbwe proficiency test, it is supposed to be a doozy as well. Rich | |||
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Guys got a phone number and will speak to whomever is on the other end...Will post here the answer.... Mike | |||
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Fellas, if you are looking for the targets like we shot here at the Vintager's shoot...Here is where you get them.... They are around $9.00 per target..Lots of ink....I just bought ele, buf, leopard, kudu, lion, rhino...Should have them before the weekend... here is the link to the gentleman who makes them...and his phone number...master engraver. Frank Conroy Essex, Connecticut... Click on his name on the left hand side http://www.vintagers.org/ Mike | |||
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Thank you! ------------------------------- Some Pictures from Namibia Some Pictures from Zimbabwe An Elephant Story | |||
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Ernie Stallman and wife along with their club put on big bore shoots in Wisconsin. Everyone is welcome. If interested get ahold of them at Badger barrel.Ed MZEE WA SIKU | |||
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Here are a few more pictures to give you a better idea. The tents for exhibitors   The Flurry. 400 minis in 3 minutes. Two SxS shotties and a loader. Good shooters got off around 125 plus rounds in 3 min. A good score was in the nineties.  Mark Sands of Ballistic Research shooting his 8 Bore. Incidentally a good place to get loads pressure tested. this is the charging Buffalo. You can see how it drops down the line. You must shoot two aimed shots between the screens  A closer view of Mark's 8 Bore.  David Brown dressed appropiately for his hunt. A 400 3" if I remember.  A 13 inch Brown from the Battenkill River. Just to show you there's more to do than shoot.  | |||
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Great pictures Mickey. It's nice to see that people dressed appropiately for the occation, like David Brown, instead of wearing the usual baseball caps, "safari shirts" and other modern garb that advertize for various things. Since tradtion is part of the theme of the "Vintagers" and all. It must have been a fun time for everyone. | |||
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Mickey you sneaky dog. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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SxS, You must be just a blur when you are in action. Pretty impressive. Congrats. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Erik It is an open shoot. That is anybody could attend and wear whatever they wanted. Shooters were asked to dress appropriately for their event and weapon though. Most shooters and their wives got into the spirit of the thing. Dave obviously does. One of my friends wives only comes so she can dress up. A very good time and Will and his Dennis Lyle outfit would work perfectly for the shottie events. If he doesn't come maybe I culd borrow it? I'd have to have it taken in at the waist and let out at the chest of course.  | |||
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this is just great! Would be nice to see more posts like this one. Rich | |||
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Mickey, I know it's an open shoot and that the apparel is optional. I'm just saying that I think it's nice to see people get into the spirit of things on such an occation, rather than walk around like wandering advertisements. | |||
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