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I'm being haunted and it's only August. What gun to use, what ammo, what knife for gutting and cleaning...yep, the hunting obsessions on.

I look in the safe: the .257 Roberts...the 7x57...and there, in the back, is my short-barrled .375 staring back like a little dog jumping in the air..."Pick Me! Pick Me!".

I dunno, should I do it? I mean, I suppose it is possible some mean old Texas whitetail might be wearing a bullet proof vest or something...and Hogs is definitely possible.

Might load a bit soft. Perhaps the 235 gr. Speer over 80.0 of H4350? I could always do a 260 gr. Accubomb or a 300 Horn. RN...Cuz', well, deer need that kinda penetration on broadside shots, right?

Should I? Should I? dancing


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Yes.

235gn to 260gn work great.

Anything above that - ie 270, 300gn knocks them flat
and takes the fun out of it Big Grin
 
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Those 235 Barnes Triple Shocks look good for the said purpose.


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Yes, take it. Especially if you have never killed anything with it.
 
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For deer or pigs load the 235 Speer over 60 to 65gr of IMR 3031.

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235gn to 260gn work great.

Anything above that - ie 270, 300gn knocks them flat
and takes the fun out of it Big Grin
I would not hesitate it's the best calibre for pigs you own IMHO
 
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I'm being haunted and it's only August. What gun to use, what ammo, what knife for gutting and cleaning...yep, the hunting obsessions on.

I look in the safe: the .257 Roberts...the 7x57...and there, in the back, is my short-barrled .375 staring back like a little dog jumping in the air..."Pick Me! Pick Me!".

I dunno, should I do it? I mean, I suppose it is possible some mean old Texas whitetail might be wearing a bullet proof vest or something...and Hogs is definitely possible.

Might load a bit soft. Perhaps the 235 gr. Speer over 80.0 of H4350? I could always do a 260 gr. Accubomb or a 300 Horn. RN...Cuz', well, deer need that kinda penetration on broadside shots, right?

Should I? Should I? dancing


It always bothers me a little when people try this "stunt" hunting with sub-caliber guns like 257, 7mm, 308, 30-06. Just disrepectful to the creature you are hunting. Frowner

Use a REAL deer and pig caliber - that starts at .366! tu2

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You most certainly should use your 375 - there is no such thing as "too dead" and besides, the more you practice with bigger boomers, the better you become. Exccellent choice and have a GREAT time. Good luck and take pictures. I bet many of your friends will be surprised that there is so little meat damage compared to that from fast-moving, more frangible pills in smaller calibers.


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I think you have to do it. The poor big guy in the back of the safe feels neglected. It's like leaving your great dane outside while you kiss and hug your pomeranian in the house. The big dog needs some love too. Take him hunting.



 
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I use my .375 H&H for deer, hogs and javalina quite often. I find the green box .270 grain Remington Coreloks work quite well.
 
Posts: 162 | Location: Houston, Texas | Registered: 27 December 2005Reply With Quote
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Ever since taking my 375 abroad, I absolutely LOVE using it for hogs/deer. I had people in CO give me crap about taking it elk hunting because they seem to be stuck on 338 and 300.
My thought is this. If you're comfortable and like it, use it. I personally like the Barnes solids because I can get 2-fers and 3-fers of the little piggies (without messing them up) and spend the rest of my time relaxing at the camp! beer
 
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Handloaded 220 grain Hornady flat points (375 win bullet) work great moving at a moderate velocity 2200 to 2400 fps. Wouldn't hesitate to use it up to 150 yds. Everything I 've shot with it has fallen right over.
 
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I have used the 235 Speer on whitetails. Bullet is too soft even at 2600 fps. Try the light 225 gr SP Hornady instead. Is supposed to have been designed for the .376 Steyr so should be reasonably tough.

I just use the ammo left over from Africa trips ... usually 300 gr TSXs at 2600 fps. Sure works. Wink


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My good buddy and also foum member Gixxer hunts everything with his .375

From hoggies in the swamps on FL, to the small whitetails in Southern GA.
 
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Mike

Sometimes a bullet coming apart can confuse folks on the cause of bullet failure. In my tests on both the speer 235 and the Hornady 225, the Speer is a much "harder" bullet. In an attempt to make a light bullet that will withstand higher speeds, Speer increased the antimony content (usually a Hornady trick). That makes the bullet brittle. It can be very tough, even too tough.... right up until a line is crossed where an impact velocity is reached that exceeds the strength given to it by the antimony. At that point the bullet shatters.

I agree with those voting for the Hornady 225. Held to impact velocities under 2500fps, it will do a decent job but it will also open well at the slower velocities (1800-1900fps) where the harder Speer bullet won't do a thing. Antimony is a poor remedy for inferior bullet construction. That is why there are so many different experiences with the same bullet. It all depneds on velocity and what the bullet impacts as to whether the bullet shatters or not. It either does reasonably well or fails miserably.

At least that's what I found in head to head testing in a controlled environment.

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I have used the 235 Speer on whitetails. Bullet is too soft even at 2600 fps. Try the light 225 gr SP Hornady instead. Is supposed to have been designed for the .376 Steyr so should be reasonably tough.

I just use the ammo left over from Africa trips ... usually 300 gr TSXs at 2600 fps. Sure works. Wink
 
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Guys, this is all fabulous stuff. I definitely think it's time to let the .375 have some fun!

If I'm lucky, maybe some 500# boar will stick his head out... Big Grin


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That's a lot of bacon that 375 needs a turn


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That's a lot of bacon that 375 needs a turn


That cartridge is rated for 1500 pounds of meat at 100 yards. Lots of meat for sure.
 
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so let me see if I understand if 375 is good for deer and piggers Big Grin then my 458 would be wonderful for the killer white tail we have here at hime Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin some one say yes please please rotflmo
 
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so let me see if I understand if 375 is good for deer and piggers Big Grin then my 458 would be wonderful for the killer white tail we have here at hime Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin some one say yes please please rotflmo


Only ONLY if you use bullets of greater than 500grains Wink


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so let me see if I understand if 375 is good for deer and piggers Big Grin then my 458 would be wonderful for the killer white tail we have here at hime Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin some one say yes please please rotflmo


HEHE...the 458 Lott is quite fun on the piggies too! Sometimes we have a big bore only weekend at the lease that makes things a little interesting.
 
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I use my 375 loaded with 270 grainers on everything, including red stags which are a lot tougher than withetails. The trajectory equals that of the 30-06 with the 180 grainers. Hooray for the unknown technician who launched the H&H back in 1912. clap
 
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My Ruger RSM 375H&H is the most accurate gun i have ever shot...throws 260,270,300grainer's all in one ragged hole together...i use full charged hot max 300grainers... for everything...
Good luck! tu2
 
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My Ruger RSM 375H&H is the most accurate gun i have ever shot...throws 260,270,300grainer's all in one ragged hole together...i use full charged hot max 300grainers... for everything...
Good luck! tu2


My Steyr 375 H&H is the same. 270 gr TSX are its bread & butter and the solids pattern less than an inch to the left.I have the utmost confidence in that gun.
 
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NFMike,

Could be that additional antimony is a problem. However, have seen the same issue with the similarly built 270 gr Speer bullet fired from a 9,3x74R and it also leaves chunks though out the length of the wound canal. The 9,3x74R is a DR and certainly doesn't make much velocity.

I think they are of very similar construction.

Now my experience is with projectiles make probably 4-5 years ago. Given the performance I saw I haven't bought any more ... even though the price is right and both the 235 gr .375" and the 270 gr .366" slugs are very accurate.


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Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin I feel a new national redneck shot'en sport coming. BIG BORE white tail video. getum today before there gone limited time offer Watchum explode, do summersaltes, and back flipps animal animal
 
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Well the 375 might work for deer. I might try to blood my latest 375 purchase on a calf moose draw this year. I used my 460 with 450 TSX's last year on a whitetail and I suppose it did OK. Not too sure if smaller is wise.


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I've got some Hornady 225 grainers loaded up and hoping to blood my Ruger on elk this year!


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I've been using 235gr Speers and TSX on blacktail and pigs since I got my 375. However, after researching the ballistics, the 270gr actually shoot flatter and of course retain more energy down range. When I run out of the 235's, I'm switching to 270gr. At any rate, you won't be out gunned with a 375 Wink


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So what Y'all are saying is that I'm not alone in wanting to blast critters with a .375! Big Grin


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So what Y'all are saying is that I'm not alone in wanting to blast critters with a .375! Big Grin

There's no such thing as too much fun!


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Heck, I've got a new (to me) .375H&H and a brand new .416 RemMag that both want to go hunting this season!

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For deer or pigs load the 235 Speer over 60 to 65gr of IMR 3031.

Worked great for me tu2


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270 gr. Hornady spire point over 68 gr. of Varget does good work on pigs and as they say you can eat up to the hole.
 
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What a great idea, I think I will use my 375 H&H with 235 grain Speers for coyote next month. To think all this time I have been useing my 458 Lott with 350's and never thought to pull out the 375 for the yotes...how hot should I load them? The 350's at 2700 fps seemed to work, but I am stepping down a few calibers Smiler
 
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Couple of years ago, I had a Saskatchewan deer hunt coming up and both my 7mm deer rifles were broken, so I took my .375 H&H, loaded with 300 A Frames. Killed that big Canadian buck DRT, although the guys in camp were giving me a bit of the fish eye. I love my .375.
 
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Every once in awhile I take my .375 out to hunt everything for that year. Antelope, deer, and Elk. I do change the bullets though. Am having a ball! Now as to the .458, hmmm, may have to try that.
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I took my first deer with the 375 H&H and it did a good job. May I suggest the barnes 270gr tsx. It'll expand and then you'll have a load you can use for anything in america.
 
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As far as I'm concerned you're undergunned! I'm hunting deer, elk, and whatever else happens along this year with either a 450 NE or 458 Lott. That said, with CAREFUL shot placement you should be fine....
 
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As far as I'm concerned you're undergunned! I'm hunting deer, elk, and whatever else happens along this year with either a 450 NE or 458 Lott. That said, with CAREFUL shot placement you should be fine....
You need to share your results when they happen. I'm personally very interested as I don't have those calibers yet
 
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