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What are the most durable iron sights that I can put on a new Winchester 70 Safari Express in .375 H&H??? I want something no nonsense that won't break and something that will get the job done. Maybe a fixed sight with one folding sight to extend my range a little bit. I don't really feel comfortable shooting more than 100 yards with iron sights so that is as far as I would ever shoot with the irons. Any thoughts?


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My choice would be the M-70 .458 sight that Wisner makes for the old prewar .458s..Its a ramp shallow V that works up and down on a screw gizzie..A wonderful big bore sight..and he just happens to have a few in stock right now..I use them when I can find them..They are fully adjustable.

The other option is the NECG ramp with one standing sighted in for 1" high at 50 yards.


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My choice would be the M-70 .458 sight that Wisner makes for the old prewar .458s..Its a ramp shallow V that works up and down on a screw gizzie..A wonderful big bore sight..and he just happens to have a few in stock right now..


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Here is a not-so-good picture of one of the Wisner sights on one of my rifles (an ex-Atkinson):

 
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What are the most durable iron sights that I can put on a new Winchester 70 Safari Express in .375 H&H??? I want something no nonsense that won't break and something that will get the job done. Maybe a fixed sight with one folding sight to extend my range a little bit. I don't really feel comfortable shooting more than 100 yards with iron sights so that is as far as I would ever shoot with the irons. Any thoughts?


I would first narrow that down by three criteria:

1. Receiver aperture or barrel blade rear sight.
2. Traditional look or form-follow-function.
3. Fixed or adjustable?

If you can decide on each of those you sure narrow the field. Otherwise you have to choose from about 100 options.


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Any more opinions on this one?


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THE most durable are probably Jim Brockman's, regardless of any consideration in my first post. Ashleys are pretty close, too but the aperatures can be brittle.


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A ghost ring receiver sight would be my choice. It lets you see more of what you are shooting at and it is a very fast sight picture to accuire.

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I went w/ NECG banded front & a single standing rear. Nothing to break or come out of adjustment. The irons are sighted 1" high @ 50 & gets me pretty much on @ 100, as far as I need to shoot w/ irons. Forget the folding sight, just something to go wrong IMO.


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I had a Heym straight pull in 35 Whelen that had ERA sights that to me were close to perfect. The front was a fiber optic on a Masterpiece ramp (adjustable for elevation) the rear was same as NECG's masterpiece rear but with a verticle slot where the notch is with a yellow fiber bead in it. The sides of the rear blade were tapered in a pyramid shape. Absolutely the quickest sights I've ever used. I liked them so much I duplicated them on my 95 405 but could not find the same fiber optic insert rear so just used a standard Masterpiece.
Absolutely reliable and not TOO expensive. Look good too.


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It is all personal preference stuff. I tried a ghost ring this year but to me has no advantage over a standard rear sight. The combination I have used to kill most of my elephants is the NECG Masterpiece adjustable front and rear, the front sight using the big white bead (3/32" dia.). I file the notch out of the rear blade to make it a shallow V, as in the old days. It is more than sufficiiently accurate and is fast.

You just need to try some different combinations and see what you prefer.


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I agree with Will, in that one is as good as the other, I shoot both, the only advantage as I see it, is the ghost peep is faster, but is it enough to make any difference, I doubt it. and yes a 3/32 Ivory bead or partridge gold faced post is a must with me..


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I have to do some more research on this subject. I think that I am going to go with completely fixed sights, no flip up stuff. I figure, I can use a sight fixed in at 50 yards for any distance up to 100 yards with no problems, and if the animal is further than 100 yards I will just use my Leupold VXIII 1.75-6x32mm scope. I have just read about the standard sights on the Model 70 Safari Express being inadequate as far as strength goes. Any more input is appreciated.


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The rear sight on my Safari Express that came from the factory is the NECG model which many recommend as a replacement! I would be happier if they were secured with more than one screw, but that seems to be the standard now. The front is a Williams ramp, yep it is aluminum, but I have had several with no problems. I wouldn't get to hung up on it. Loctite the screws in and the odds are you will never have problem with either one.
 
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