Hi
I am old and having bieng wrestling in my younger days may neck is very worn.I get horrible headache after shooting with 375 ful loads!! i wish somebody could tel me what to do. maybe Dr.ALF would give me some advices?
regards
yes

I used to get a headache after shooting my .585 Nyati and my .600 Nitro Express. My first solution was to take Ibuprofen before going to the shooting range. My second solution was to sell the rifles.

There is no profit in endangering your spinal column. I would suggest selling the .375 and getting a 9.3 x 62, which seems to have less felt recoil.

Good luck!

hi
or loading down the 375 to 9,3x62 level. 300 gr @ 2300 fps. wouldn't it kill as well as a 9,3x62?
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yes

Yes. But it would do it with more powder (i.e., more jet thrust effect in the recoil) and a heavier bullet (300 gr as compared to 286 gr) so the recoil would be a little heavier, assuming both guns weighed the same.

I mean using about 60 gr 201 or a little bit more 202 instead of heavy 70+ grain loads with slow burning powders gives nearly same power and nearly same kind of loading because 9,3 is loaded with fast burning powders and the gun s are often a pound or more lighter. what do you think and then i have the advantage of ful magnum loads if it is necaissary.
yes

That will work, and you can also drop down in bullet weight to 270 grains which will lighten the recoil a bit further.

You may also want to have your neck checked out, you may have some vertbrae out of place...

Yes.......try a death hold on the rifle without your face glued to the cheek piece. If your face is pressed too hard, your head and neck will absorb a lot of recoil and you may hurt yourself. I learned this by giving myself a mild concussion years ago. 20 hot loads from my .460 on the bench in the Quasimoto position and I was knocked stupid for a week or so. (some may say I have never recovered) Form is important as is the shooter/rifle fit.

You might also want to look into a recoil reducer in the stock. Also, there are recoil absorbers that you can wear on your shoulder. Best one I've seen is actually the one Aglifter talked about a while back.

A good removeable muzzle brake too. Wear ear plugs and head sets when shooting, warn your neighbors at the range too.

Chuck

I know this will stir up the light rifle crowd but weight is your friend when it comes to recoil.

1. Step one is to see your doctor. The recoil from a 375 really shouldn't cause head pain but if you have had a neck injury already be careful. Also there are very rare but serious other things that could be causing head ache with a small about of recoil.

2. Have a heavier rifle built. It is amazing how much a pound or even two will tame recoil .

Recoil can be tamed effectively. Have a stock made wider than normal in the butt. Use a extra wide F990 recoil pad. Add two or three mercury recoil reducers or just use lead and epoxy( they work just as well. You can add up to 3 lbs that way. Add a mercury recoil reducer to the forearm under the barrel channel to balance the gun and add even more weight. Use a real efficient muzzel break and learn to roll with the recoil not fight it. Do not take your cheek off the gun. With a tight hold let your head and body move with the recoil, don't fight it, you will lose.-Rob

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I used to get a headache after shooting my .585 Nyati and my .600 Nitro Express. My first solution was to take Ibuprofen before going to the shooting range. My second solution was to sell the rifles.

There is no profit in endangering your spinal column. I would suggest selling the .375 and getting a 9.3 x 62, which seems to have less felt recoil.

Great line, Dan! My 404 Jeffery is as big as I want to go! Ann that's loaded down a bit!

Hi Alf
Thanks for your advice. nearly all my relatives are medicinal Dr. when i told them about my problems . they only say nothing is wrong with you . you are such a shooting maniac and may be a lttle bit true . it happens that maybe i shoot a couple of hundreds rounds in an afternoon.. any way i feel like an old car that is time to send to junky yard instead of reparations.
regards
yes

Yes,

I sometimes have the same issues and can proffer a couple of ideas. First, try wearing a football mouth guard when you shoot. Sounds funny but it works. D'Arcy Echols told me about that one. You don't realize how much you jaws slap together under recoil until you try this. Second, (not trying to pimp my own products but it really helps) try one of the recoil shields I developed. It forms a + or - 20" but pad, like a football shoulder pad, rather than the 3-4" you get on the butt of the rifle. See Idaho Sharpshooters remarks in the "best pics of the Hoot and Shoot" thread. He was shooting a 550 Gibbs pushed full steam ahead. You can see the shields at www.SuperiorShooting.com

Good luck

TMc

The same problem used to give me fits. For me, the headaches came from recoil transmitted to my face and cheekbone, and the cure was correct weight, fit, and stock design.

The benefit of adequate weight is obvious. Even a half pound extra weight can make a significant difference.

It needs to fit, and that means more than just correct LOP. You need enough drop for a comfortable, natural mount. Too little is just as bad as too much. If you're having to scrunch for the sights on a too straight stock, more recoil will be transmitted to your face. Correct cast also makes a big difference. Obviously, there needs to be enough bend away from the shooter's face (cast off for a right handed shooter, cast on for lefties) to center the eye in line with the sights for the individual shooter - but correct cast also greatly reduces recoil transmitted to the face.

The comb should also be designed to reduce recoil transmission to the face. The typical American designs - thick comb with a bulbous, fluted nose - are the worst I've found. For me, the British is the best. Their design has a wide shotgun butt, with a straight taper to a thin, unfluted comb nose. The tapered comb slides away from the face as the gun recoils. Combined with adequate cast, I find it extremely effective in eliminating recoil transmission to the face. Typical off the rack American .375s usually give me a headache after a bit of shooting from the bench. British doubles in the .450/.470 class usually don't.
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