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Offhand practice with the 458WM....OUCH....VIDEO!
27 January 2009, 05:31
MacifejOffhand practice with the 458WM....OUCH....VIDEO!
quote:
Originally posted by olcrip:
Maybe you should switch to a double rifle?
In this case...too many triggers...
28 January 2009, 01:26
Jim Manionquote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
shootaway,
Fortunately, I had the page in my cache.
George
There are probably prescription drugs that will help to alleviate this type of abberant behavior.
You really cached this? Is there a doctor in the house?
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28 January 2009, 01:27
Jim Manionquote:
Originally posted by Oday450:
And the point of all the effort to show these videos is to demonstrate what?
That there is a village somewhere missing an idiot?
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28 January 2009, 01:30
jetdrvrquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I had posted the same CZ458wm video twice and know have the Ruger video up also.This is the rifle I took to Zimbabwe last summer.In the second video,you can see that it is very difficult to get the rounds in the Ruger magazine.The issue is with the follower sticking to the walls of the magazine box.It is not a major issue in warm temperatures but is in cold.I need to get this fixed by my gunsmith.I never had this issue with any other rifle.
Don't lubricate it. The oil is probably freezing and bonding the follower to the magazine wall.
28 January 2009, 01:33
olcripquote:
Originally posted by Jim Manion:
quote:
Originally posted by Oday450:
And the point of all the effort to show these videos is to demonstrate what?
That there is a village somewhere missing an idiot?
Now that really is funny.

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28 January 2009, 01:36
olcripquote:
Originally posted by jetdrvr:
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I had posted the same CZ458wm video twice and know have the Ruger video up also.This is the rifle I took to Zimbabwe last summer.In the second video,you can see that it is very difficult to get the rounds in the Ruger magazine.The issue is with the follower sticking to the walls of the magazine box.It is not a major issue in warm temperatures but is in cold.I need to get this fixed by my gunsmith.I never had this issue with any other rifle.
Don't lubricate it. The oil is probably freezing and bonding the follower to the magazine wall.
That was why I suggested he trade off for a double rifle. He surely can handle a magazine on a double rifle,no?

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28 January 2009, 02:02
GeorgeSquote:
Originally posted by Jim Manion:
quote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
shootaway,
Fortunately, I had the page in my cache.
George
There are probably prescription drugs that will help to alleviate this type of abberant behavior.
You really cached this? Is there a doctor in the house?
Jim,
Your browser caches pages as you stomp through the Internet; as I had not yet closed my browser, it was a simple thing to hit the back button repeatedly until his post re-appeared.
It's not like I saved the page to my hard drive, although maybe I should save that clip and use it in some sort of instructional capacity, i.e., how NOT to work a bolt.

George
28 January 2009, 03:03
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by jetdrvr:
quote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I had posted the same CZ458wm video twice and know have the Ruger video up also.This is the rifle I took to Zimbabwe last summer.In the second video,you can see that it is very difficult to get the rounds in the Ruger magazine.The issue is with the follower sticking to the walls of the magazine box.It is not a major issue in warm temperatures but is in cold.I need to get this fixed by my gunsmith.I never had this issue with any other rifle.
Don't lubricate it. The oil is probably freezing and bonding the follower to the magazine wall.
It is not lubricated.I don't think I have this issue with my second Ruger Lott.
29 January 2009, 02:36
Duckearquote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
shootaway,
The software glitches every now and again.
Fortunately, I had the page in my cache.
Let's see if this works:
CZ 458WM CZ 458WM Here is the first one.
George
Okay, that is a 1:39 I'll never get back.

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29 January 2009, 18:17
Jim Manionquote:
Originally posted by GeorgeS:
Jim,
Your browser caches pages as you stomp through the Internet; as I had not yet closed my browser, it was a simple thing to hit the back button repeatedly until his post re-appeared.
It's not like I saved the page to my hard drive, although maybe I should save that clip and use it in some sort of instructional capacity, i.e., how NOT to work a bolt.

George
George,
Might want to refresh that cache more often, lest material such as this infect your computer. Having something like this inside your system would be akin to a hard drive brain tumor.
Glad to hear tha as the reason. My top two theories pending your response were:
1. You were a secret Shootaway admirer and closet Shootaway groupie;
2 You were a huge Three Stooges fan and cached contemporary examples of full blown stooge behavior for posterity.
Good to hear it was a software issue....
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29 January 2009, 18:55
shootawayI'll try to get another video or two when my arm,shoulder, back and foot heal(in a day or two).Finally getting to the point of shooting the Ruger and CZ offhand,more often and comparing the two.
29 January 2009, 21:10
olcripquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
I'll try to get another video or two when my arm,shoulder, back and foot heal(in a day or two).Finally getting to the point of shooting the Ruger and CZ offhand,more often and comparing the two.
Try to be a bit more limber when you fire your artillery. A stiff locked up position will punish you dramatically. Give with the recoil some. If you don't fear it, you will eventually over come it. Don't shoot with a rigged locked back. As you know it hoits a bunch, could cripple you. RELAX. Another route to go is roll your own and start out with the mildest load you can find in the book. Work your way up and voluae, you are shooting dinosaur loads. It's called familiarity.

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30 January 2009, 05:52
shootawayIf anyone wants to see one of the nicest 375 bolt action rifles,check out the new rifle on the Martini and Hagn website,the first rifle in the "newly finished projects" section.It's not mine but it's owner must be proud.I was told all the work was done by Ralph Martini.I shouldn't do this if I ever want to see my project finished.
02 February 2009, 04:46
shootawayI was at the range again today and had another try at firing my lott offhand.My arm is still sore and shooting the thing is still uncomfortable,as you can see in this vid.If I can keep from shooting it for at least a month,my arm should completely recover and shooting it will be much more pleasant.If you remember last time I talked about the follower getting stuck and although I do have this issue with the rifle,it was not the cause of the loading issue in this and my last Ruger Lott vid.The reason for my issue is simply that I was trying to stuff 4 rds in the 3 round Ruger magazine.Here is the vid from todays practice session.I am shooting the Ruger Lott at full power at 100yds.
]Ruger Lott 100yds02 February 2009, 04:58
jeffeossoGeorge -- you seriously need to load rem 405 at 2100 fps and shoot that for 6 months, nothing else.. You have a HORRIBLE flinch and you act as if its someone else's rifle, everytime.
Look up Rob or I giving people advice on HOW to shoot a big bore.
Frankly, George, your antics make "a couple amatures" from my website seem like 2 guys shooting 22 olympic rifles for world records.
"My arm hurts" .. that's because you don't DO IT RIGHT.
Beside, we know it's not you.. no tutu or helmet, you big bore ballerina (emphasis on the A) you
02 February 2009, 05:03
shootawayjeffeoso,I don't have a flinch.I have a sore arm and shoulder.If I had a flich,the bullets would not hit the bulleye as a couple did at 100yd in this vid.
02 February 2009, 11:51
olcripAfter viewing the former videos and the last video also, what is in the tunnel or overpass in the down range part of the video? Does vehicle traffic use the tunnel for access to the range? Inquiring minds want to know!

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02 February 2009, 13:28
shootaway300yds+ targets.It's just a space in the dirt mound that can be closed off.
02 February 2009, 16:17
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
jeffeoso,I don't have a flinch.I have a sore arm and shoulder.If I had a flich,the bullets would not hit the bulleye as a couple did at 100yd in this vid.
You have a flinch, a sore arm, and refuse to listen. Go aheadh, son, you are obvously a person that demands to make all their own mistakes
02 February 2009, 17:37
fla3006quote:
shootaway: If anyone wants to see one of the nicest 375 bolt action rifles,check out the new rifle on the Martini and Hagn website,the first rifle in the "newly finished projects" section.It's not mine but it's owner must be proud.I was told all the work was done by Ralph Martini.I shouldn't do this if I ever want to see my project finished.
I recall a post in which you said you did not like the work of M&H, that they did not meet your high standards.

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02 February 2009, 18:19
shootawayI was wrong.BTW,that Ruger is one hell of an accuarte rifle.That trigger is very reliable and the sights are excellent.I will continue to shoot both the CZ and Ruger offhand and get a feel for them.The arm is getting better and my shooting should improve next time around.I had my Win mod 94,30-30 along and had some fun shooting that.These two last shooting sessions taught me that iron sights need to be held really secure with all screws tightened as hard as you can to prevent shifts in the point of impact.Screws that at first appeared tight were just not tight enough.Loose screws on iron sights show up on the target as perfect groups side by side only spaced apart.The same could be said for guard screws on the big kickers.Loose guard screws show up on the target as a sudden lowering point of impact and large groups.
02 February 2009, 19:36
Charles_HelmYou say your screws are loose?
02 February 2009, 20:22
shootawayHey Prince Charles! How is it going?
02 February 2009, 20:39
Charles_Helmquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
Hey Prince Charles! How is it going?
No promotion yet, still a commoner. Did I miss the New Year's Honours List this year?
Good news though -- none of my screws are loose.
03 February 2009, 07:26
Jim Manionquote:
The reason for my issue is simply that I was trying to stuff 4 rds in the 3 round Ruger magazine.
And so it goes.....
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03 February 2009, 08:28
RobgunbuilderCould Shootaway actually be the demented spawn of ScottS?-Rob
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03 February 2009, 13:19
shootawayI got an email yesterday saying that the first two of the three parts of my Zim hunt are ready.I should have some video to post soon.
03 February 2009, 13:27
shootawayquote:
Originally posted by Jim Manion:
quote:
The reason for my issue is simply that I was trying to stuff 4 rds in the 3 round Ruger magazine.
And so it goes.....
What confused me about the whole thing is that the Ruger mag will easily accept four snap cap rds and I got used to putting four down.
08 February 2009, 04:54
shootawayThought I'd post a vid (and decorate my thread) of my skate on the riviere de l'assomption this afternoon.I should be at the range back again tommorrow.I've been playing some ice hockey and scoring alot of goals.I've been told that I have more energy than a energizer battery.
]ENJOY08 February 2009, 05:10
olcripquote:
Originally posted by shootaway:
Thought I'd post a vid (and decorate my thread) of my skate on the riviere de l'assomption this afternoon.I should be at the range back again tommorrow.I've been playing some ice hockey and scoring alot of goals.I've been told that I have more energy than a energizer battery.
]
ENJOY
Fantastic, outstanding. Did it cost you much to make that video?

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09 February 2009, 06:52
shootawayCZ 458WM.
]100yds offhandI was out shooting my rifles again today and noticed the mild humid weather messed up both their point of impact.After a month of cold dry weather,we got some warmer,moist air and noted that it caused all the screws on the rifle to loosten up.I made sure they were tight right after the last time I was out and they loostened up since.These rifles are expertly bedded.After weeks of maintaining the exact same point of impact,things all of a sudden shifted by nearly a foot in both rifles.I never had such an issue in lesser calibers or medium bore rifles.I once again had an easier time of picking out a difficult target with the deep V-notch sights on the CZ compare to the Ruger sights.Ruger Lott
]Lott Offhand 100yds09 February 2009, 07:47
fla3006quote:
shootaway: I was out shooting my rifles again today and noticed the mild humid weather messed up both their point of impact.After a month of cold dry weather,we got some warmer,moist air and noted that it caused all the screws on the rifle to loosten up.I made sure they were tight right after the last time I was out and they loostened up since.These rifles are expertly bedded.After weeks of maintaining the exact same point of impact,things all of a sudden shifted by nearly a foot in both rifles.I never had such an issue in lesser calibers or medium bore rifles.
Now I know we've been had.
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09 February 2009, 09:38
olcripIs this guy for real or is he just smoking something green?

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09 February 2009, 16:11
jeffeossowe need to call him "flinchie"
10 February 2009, 04:58
shootawayI think the forearm screws on both rifles,that pull the barrel down on the forearm,is what causes a large shift in the point of impact on big bore rifles with changes in humidity.After cleaning these rifles,side by side one sees that CZ barrel can't come close to the Ruger barrel in smoothness and accuracy.I believe that Ruger barrels are one of the most accurate barrels,if not the most accurates barrel ever.
12 February 2009, 04:25
jeffeossoAh, i found a hidden cam of flinchie inspecting his new pistols
12 February 2009, 04:40
RobgunbuilderJeffe- Its only a matter of time before he wins the Darwin award. Maybe he hasnt bred yet. TIME IS OF THE ESSENSE.-Rob
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12 February 2009, 05:44
olcripFlinchie, your cab is waiting.

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12 February 2009, 05:49
ScottSshootaway,
quote:
I think the forearm screws on both rifles,that pull the barrel down on the forearm,is what causes a large shift in the point of impact on big bore rifles with changes in humidity
That is why I specifically told my gunsmith not to put a screw into the barrel recoil lug of my 458 Win mag!
12 February 2009, 05:59
Tyler Kemp"I believe that Ruger barrels are one of the most accurate barrels,if not the most accurates barrel ever."
Can you post a 100 yard target of a group less than .25 inches C-T-C? Maybe done offhand?
Love shooting precision and long range. Big bores too!
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