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Winchester 375 HH
17 January 2005, 23:43
bullsprigWinchester 375 HH
I have been following some of the discussions on the Winchester model 70 and I am confused. I just purchased a new Winchester Model 70 in 375 that is also left hand.
What is the problem with the trigger and the bedding. Is there something that I should immediately do? I have not shot it yet. I am having the trigger set to 4 lbs and the scope mounted. What is the issue with putting epoxy on the scope rings.
Thanks for rookie help
Sprig
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18 January 2005, 00:34
tracksSprig just go ahead and use it, then if you find a problem you can fix it, no good worrying about what you read...every firearm is different..Les
18 January 2005, 00:36
CanadianLeftyIs this in preparation to your Zambia Buffalo hunt in late June-July?
If so, I would have a competent gunsmith (I am sure someone will make recommendations here) take a look at your rifle and work out any potential problems (feeding, trigger, bedding etc.)as soon as possible. It is extremely important to have your rifle and your field shooting finely tuned for any dangerous game hunt.
18 January 2005, 00:36
peashooterI have had a Model 70 .375 for many years. I found that having a trigger job and the action bedded helped the acceracy of the gun. I use a Leupold 1.75-6 and have never had a problem. If you are skepticle about mounting the scope yourself take it to a smith for a professonal job, and peace of mind.
18 January 2005, 00:37
CanadianLeftyBTW, great to have another lefty on this board!
18 January 2005, 00:37
BwanamichBull,
I have the same rifle I bought in 2002. I had the trigger "smoothed out and re-set to 3 lbs and most importantly, I had the barrel re-bedded. Have had no problems and use it as is (with scope). i am now fitting some NECG rear and front sights and some QR scope mounts.
With time you can have a better quality stock fitted and a better grade barrel, etc but that will be a full custom job and cost you $$$
Works well for me with those initial minor changes...
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18 January 2005, 01:55
jeffeossoI've shot about 400 rounds out of the win 70 in 416 rem, with the factory bedding....
worked fine...
however, if you have the skill, I would no doubr bed it with acragel or steel bed
jeffe
18 January 2005, 04:44
vapodogquote:
What is the issue with putting epoxy on the scope rings.
Where did that advice come from????? Wherever it was it's a good place to quit listening. Nothing of the kind is required at all.....DO NOT DO IT!!!
Mount the scope properly and tightly and it'll stay put.....
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18 January 2005, 05:04
FjoldWell I have a three month old Lefty M70 in 375 also. My trigger is actually pretty crisp and it was easy to adjust to 4 Lbs. My bedding was messed up where they dribbled the hot glue inside the stock cutout and my action sat tipped to the right a little bit. I had to twist the action to get the screw holes to line up. I dropped my gun off last week at my smiths where he's going to bed it.
Frank
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19 January 2005, 08:50
BiggestGunIf you were to do one modification you would want to have it bedded. Winchesters are deficient in this area. It will be alright for some years.
Marshall Jones
20 January 2005, 01:04
pertinaxI've also got a lefty Win .375. Mine shot overlapping holes at 100 yards out of the box (scoped, of course). I guess my only complaint is that the recoil is very painful with open sights.
Mine has the cheesy "hot glue" Winchester bedding still, as I haven't gotten around to taking it to the 'smith. But that will happen shortly. Hate being without it though-- it's my favorite gun!
You can trivially adjust the trigger pull yourself. Instructions readily available on the web.
Pertinax
20 January 2005, 01:39
GeorgeSpertinax,
Which stock design does your LH .375H&H have?
George
20 January 2005, 16:56
pertinaxGeorge, I'm not sure. What are my choices? It's the normal Safari model stock. The gun's two years old (made the previous time Win cranked out some LH guns).
I have a much older Model 70 with a stock I like better, that was converted from .30-06 to .458 Lott. And yeah, it's LH also. This older stock design allows pain-free shooting with the open sights. I'm not really up on the design characteristics of stocks, but maybe I should learn. There's a huge difference between the way these two behave, but not much obvious difference to the eye.
That answer probably doesn't help. Sorry.
Pertinax
20 January 2005, 19:24
jorgeTrack's advice was the best. I have the same rifle only the bolt is on the "right" side

. Topped it off with a leupold 1.75X6 with Heavy Duplex and EAW QD rings. Loaded it with my favorite handloads. Well, the picture below pretty much covers it. It feeds flawlessly. Took it to Africa and killed seven animals with it. if it ain't broke, don't mess with it. jorge
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20 January 2005, 19:28
GeorgeSpertinax,
Is the stock shaped like this
or
like this?
George
20 January 2005, 19:29
pertinaxTease! That picture's too small to see what's there. More pixels, please.
20 January 2005, 20:14
JBDI've owned two Model 70 Winchesters in .375, one push feed and one of the newer controlled round feed. Now I am a Model 70 lover but neither was well bedded nor were any of the other Model 70s I have gotten in the last 15 years. I think you are doing a wise thing in having yours redone. Without exception every one of mine shot better. YOur rifle should also hold its zero better.
20 January 2005, 23:12
BFDI don't know how many model 70's I own in .375 HH, everyone of them shoot vary well. The one I lend out is in a fiberglass stock, the one I hunt with is in a fiberglass stock. I've never had one that did not shoot vary well indeed including several pre-wars I have here. The only reason I have two in glass is I can't stand to see the orignal wood take the beating they would get. This is a hard land on wood stocks. I love nice wood but hate to see it beat to death. If I were in your shoes I would think about a Mac stock for your baby. They have a non monty-carlo I think you would really like. My own old faithfull is in there General purpose stock and this has been my "they will pry from my cold dead fingers rifle", for a long time now. Triggers, well a guy gets spoiled by a good trigger. All of my hunting shooters sport Canjar single sets, all feel the same. I think that for me there is no better trigger. I shoot Jewel on my match guns but for hunting I want the Canjar. You get to a stage in life that you find something that works for you, it's a good idea to hang on to it.