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I need some help with value of this gun. Gun is either new/unfired or as new having had only a couple rounds through it at the range. Gun was bought new about 3-4 years ago. So I'm guessing MFG. date around 2000-2003.???

Here's the situation. A friend of mine had a really good friend and co-worker pass away last February. My friend is helping the widow liquidate some of her husbans belongings. He ran across this rifle and remembered that I had told him that I was looking for a 375H&H.

What's this gun worth? I don't want to take advantage of this lady and wouldn't even consider it. Just want to pay a fair price for both of us. Pretty much the gun is mine if I want it, but nobody knows what he paid for it or what it is worth. I looked on gunsamerica and gunbroker and only found a few that were comporable and they varied in price from 1100 to 2500. What do ya'll think?

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David,

I just sold one exactly like it (I assume if 2000-2003 vintage you are referring to a Classic Safari Express and not a Classic Super Express) that had the box and all papers, etc in like new condition with maybe less than 100 rounds through the rifle. I sold it for $2,100 however, this particular rifle had $500 worth of work done to it by Mark Penrod. Deduct the $500 that I paid Mark and the stock rifle really sold for about $1,600.

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It is the Super Express. At least that's what he read to me off the barrel/floor plate over the phone. He just came across it today, he had forgotten about it, but remembered when the fellow bought it. He said he bought it in a big sale a store in Birmingham was having, so it could have been on a shelf in the back for a while. I think it was purchase around '03 or '04.

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i bought a super express push-feed .375 about a year ago, used gun, some blueiing wear on the floorplate, trigger guard area.... for $725....i'd rate mine at about 90%....don't know how long it was on the shelf before i got it, but big bore bolt guns are a buyer's market...about the same time i found a .458 pf m70 in san antonio for $750... it was rough, but still sold....


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If it is a push feed it is not worth more than $700. If it is a controlled round feed then it could bring as much as $1500 in perfect condition.


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It's the classic. My friend had it in his hands when he called me and he verified that is did have the Mauser-type extractor and it read Model 70 Classic on the barrel.

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David
 
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box and everything, and for some reason those M70 boxes ARE worth a fair amount with the rifle, I would offer $1500 for it. He likely paid about half that at the time, and I saw a stainless synthetic 375 sell a month ago for $1000.

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David,

If it's the Classic Super Express keep in mind that they are generally a little less desirable than the Classic Safari Express. If it is a Super Express it will say Super Express on the floorplate. Both the Classic Super and the Classic Safari Express are the pre-64 type long-claw extractor action.

The Safari Express is a bit of an upgraded rifle as compared to the Super as it has the one-piece bottom metal, a true second recoil lug on the barrel, NECG express sights, better stock design, Decelerator recoil pad, machined steel extractor, etc. I personally would not pay as much for a Super Express as I would for a Safari. I would think in the $1,000 to $1,200 range would be fair.

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I have seen Super Express in the push feed version.
 
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Originally posted by ireload2:
I have seen Super Express in the push feed version.


The Classic Super Express is CRF. The push feed version was named just "Super Express".
 
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If it's the controlled-round feed version and you want to give the widow a fair deal, offer $1100. That is no less than what her late husband paid for it new.

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I think I paid around $1,100 for my Mod.70 Safari Express (I think that's what is stamped on it)CRF in 2001.
 
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I can't remember the date on the receipt, but my classic safari express went for 1195 in 99 or 2001, that was brand new from shop that sells at full MSRP. I paid 650 for it unfired, with a buggered barrel band, two boxes of ammo and the sling (some guy bought it, had shoulder probelsm and was told not to shoot it). I considered it a great deal at the time.

Nice of you to not try and take advantage of her. Offer her 1000-1100 and even if it isn't the biggest steal you are getting a good gun at a fair price and will also know you did right by the lady.

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I've had three of these in LH. One converted to 458 Lott, one sold, one kept as 375. I paid about $900 wholesale each. CAUTION: On the bolt, opposite the extractor, is a small gas block. It is cast. It broke on one of my rifles and locked up the action. Fortunately it was at the range, about the 30th round through the gun. Machined replacement parts are available.

All three of these rifles had problems from the factory. They are not Africa-ready without careful examination and corrections by a well-qualified smith. As to value, $1100 or thereabouts sounds fair to me.

Incidentally, my 375 shot 4" groups. I loaded some rounds long enough to touch the lands and it shrank to 1", so we set the barrel back. It shoots like a varmint rifle now.
 
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I paid just at $1,000 for my left handed, M70 Classic Safari Express in 375 H&H in 2004 and I am so glad that I did.


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I've heard good things about Mark Penrod with these guns. It'll definitely get some TLC before we make the trip across the pond. If nothing else, it's a good starting point, even if it does need some tweaking. I'm not gonna set her price, it's her gun. I told my guy that's helping her that they were all over the board price-wise, from $700 up to as much $2000. But I told him I would not make an offer, it was her's to price as she sees fit. From what he told me, she doesn't care about trying to go to Gunbroker or anything like that, she just wants to keep it simple. Whatever the price is, if it's under $1200, I'll buy it.

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