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I have a WIN M70 Classic stainless in 375 H&H - can I re-barrel to a 416 rigby? I know I can go to a 416 Rem or 375 Wtby but would really like to go to the Rigby but I get the feeling the action may not be long enough? "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | ||
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The Winchester custom shop made a couple of .416 Rigbys on the M70. It can be done. Just because it can be done, does not make it smart. I would prefer to have a .416 Ruger on an M70 classic with 3.625" box length. That could beat the .416 RemMag in case capacity if the .416 Ruger bullets are seated "Long Nose." That could easily do classic .416 Rigby ballistics. No case crowding problems. That is the only thing the .416 Ruger suffers from: inability to make best use of long bullets in the short box. A Winchester M70 in .416 RemMag could have the barrel threads whacked off (sacrilege!), then rethreaded and chambered to .416 Ruger. Plenty of shank for that. The ".416 Remington Magnum" on the barrel could be changed to ".416 Ruger" by a skillful engraver and a refinish job on the metal. | |||
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The 416 Rem will hold 3 down and feed in the Classic action with no mods. The Ruger??? | |||
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Mike, Yes, you got it. Little difference but the long nose loading of the .416 Ruger has an edge over the .416 RemMag. I should have the fireformed brass to measure soon. That will tell the net case difference with bullets loaded. The throat may have to be lengthened in the .416 Ruger for long-nose seating. Maybe this weekend. Yes, I have become a sucker for the .416 Ruger too. Thinking about converting my last .375 H&H to .375 Ruger too ... or another .375 Wby, the most powerful of that .375-caliber trio, and still useful with .375 H&H ammo in a pinch.  MTM, Yes, the box will hold 3 down in the M70 Classic, and feed. All it takes is windowing of the sheetmetal of that box to make it work with the bigger RUM and 404 Jeffery. | |||
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Now here is a waste of time! Nothing wrong with the 416 Rem, except that tinkers must have the latest whatever. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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Will, Thanks for the input. I better make that another .375 Wby that can still shoot .375 H&H ammo. It will weigh 6.75 pounds dry. What is your lightest elephant rifle?  | |||
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I have two Model 70 Classics in 375 H&H. Both have Hogue over-molded stocks and the triggers have been tuned. Both great guns - I think I am going to make one of them a 416 Rem Mag... Although the 375 Weatherby idea is interesting.... I figure for $500.00 I should be able to re-barrel an already great rifle to a 416 Rem Mag instead of buying a new rifle for $1000.00 and still have to put money into it to make it a great rifle... "At least once every human being should have to run for his life - to teach him that milk does not come from the supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people." - Robert Heinlein | |||
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I figure I have to shake your tree once in awhile just to see if you have gone totally insane.  The 375 H&H I had weighed in right at 7 lbs. but my 416 Taylors are 7.5 lbs., with a 4 down magazine. Getting them below that might be really tough. ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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It's not a good idea, that's why Winchester quit doing it after making a few, not enough metal to do it right, box work, etc. Stay with the 416 Rem or 416 Ruger. "An individual with experience is never at the mercies of an individual with an argument" | |||
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What a waste of a Mod. 70! If nothing else the bolt face has to be opened up because of the Rigby case. I don't know what the latest is from CZ, but what I did was take a CZ 550 in 375 H&H and put a 416 Rem barrel on it. No metal work required. They feed fast and slow and 5 down in the magazine. A friggin killing machine! ------------------------------- Will / Once you've been amongst them, there is no such thing as too much gun. --------------------------------------- and, God Bless John Wayne. NRA Benefactor, GOA, NAGR _________________________ "Elephant and Elephant Guns" $99 shipped. “Hunting Africa's Dangerous Game" $20 shipped. red.dirt.elephant@gmail.com _________________________ If anything be of note, let it be he was once an elephant hunter, hoping to wind up where elephant hunters go. | |||
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