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25 April 2005, 19:01

Bent Fossdal

.400 Holland&Holland

Hello everybody!

My first entry on this interesting forum.

A year ago there was some talk about Hollands new cartridge, .400H&H, but it has been quiet lately. Does any of you gentlemen know anything about this? I also recall there was another too, but can not remember the caliber. Have searched on the web but negative.

Thanks.
Bent Fossdal.

25 April 2005, 19:20

GeorgeS

Welcome.

The other cartridge is the .465H&H.

George

25 April 2005, 20:20

Nitroman

Here you go. Left to right: .375 H&H, .400 H&H, and the .465 H&H.

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25 April 2005, 20:59

GeorgeS

Here is a link to an article written by one of Members: New H&H Cartridges

George

25 April 2005, 22:34

Fjold

I thought that it was strange that they loaded the 400 and the 465 to such low velocities.

Cal. Bullet grains M.V.f/sec
.465________480____2375
.400________400____2375
.375________300____2500

They pushed the shoulder so far back on the 400 (and a lesser extent on the 465) it really cut down on the boiler room. I would like to see the shoulders further forward to get the 400 and the 465 both to close to 2500 fps with their respective factory bullets.

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26 April 2005, 10:59

WEBLEY 701

Fjold,
They probably achieved exactly what they wanted to as regards the velocities.

Regards
Webley

26 April 2005, 16:31

Bent Fossdal

Tanks everybody for Your answers!Nitroman, are those in Your private collection? I collect myself, as a professional gunsmith in Norway I might be able to pick up stuff if anybody wants to trade?

26 April 2005, 20:21

Nitroman

Mr. Fossdal,

No sir they are not. I remember copying the photo when H&H first announced the new cartridges. I honestly do not even remember where I acquired the photo. John Ricks, a gunsmith in Oregon(?) U.S.A. who posts here, does chamber for the rifles, he may be able to acquire some cartridges to trade with you.

26 April 2005, 20:53

Atkinson

I suspect they will become quiter and quiter as time goes by...Both fine cartridges, but simply are a repeat of the many cartridges we have in commercial loadings...

26 April 2005, 22:59

D Humbarger

The necks are too short! They need to be longer.

27 April 2005, 01:56

HunterJim

Bent,

I have been following the .400 H&H and the .465 H&H for over three years now, and they are coming at Holland's own sweet time.

I continue to visit with their Technical Director at the SCI Convention. They are making rifles and I believe about 10 .400 H&Hs have been delivered. There is a prototype .465 H&H being used by a PH in Africa. At last update he had taken 5 elephant with 6 shots.

Wolfgang Romey is developing the ammunition. Perhaps you can get some from him in Germany.

These cartridges are built in the Holland house style: low pressure for reliability, lots of taper to ease extraction and belted cartridges for headspace control.

jim