I have a 577 T-Rex on which I plan to remove the rear sight, mount a small weaver-type rail, and add a holo or dot sight. I hear good things about the Docter. Has anyone here used one on a heavy-recoiling rifle? Any others I should be looking at? Thanks.

I wanted to put one on my 600 OK but found when mounted it was too high for me to keep a good cheek weld and see through the sight. I will do it someday, perhaps on the suppressed 600 OK I am planning on building this winter

Matthew

Jon,
I have a dokter mounted on both my Heym DR's,470 & 400,my 475 Turnbull lever has one as well,have shot a good amount of game,two trips to Africa,no problems whatsoever,if there is an issue that I have noticed,it would be the ejected brass hitting the sight on the way out,on my lever it will do that if I eject slowly.
the Heym's have a QD mount for the dokter,I still have the sights as a backup if I need them.

Biebs

I think for this application a dot is superb. I started monkeying around with the Aimpoints a few years ago. The smaller versions, not the full length scope size ones. Now these days even those Aimpoints are way to big and heavy. I have heard good about the Docter, but honestly can't say one way or the other. The Aimpoints are good, but the only viable one for size is that micro one, which I played with, sent it back to a friend of mine. It was ok.

I have to look up and see what the Docter looks like. And how big it is. ??????

But, that's not what I am replying to you about anyway. Now, not sure about how this docter mounts up. But on a weaver base, how about instead of removing the rear sight, try mounting it on a weaver base on the receiver instead?

Now, the reason is of course you may be able to keep the rear sight on, which is a plus. But I have had several rifles built over the years, with rails in front of the receiver, and further up the barrel as well for forward mounting. This is fine, works great, but mounting one of the smaller dots on the receiver keeps the sight closer to your eye, and seems to be much faster to pick up, and be on target, micro seconds, but still...............

Maybe keep that as a thought anyway.

My issue with the dots is that in thick brush I have a very hard time picking things out! Even worse with the irons however. In the open, where I can see better they are great. Maybe I should get some new glasses eh?

Michael

Biebs

The Docter is a good choice. You want the 3.5 moa version.

They will take the recoil. They have been mounted on the slide of a 1911.

I like them the best of the small red dots.

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Originally posted by N E 450 No2:
Biebs

The Docter is a good choice. You want the 3.5 moa version.

They will take the recoil. They have been mounted on the slide of a 1911.

I like them the best of the small red dots.

Have you used the EOTech sights? How do they compare with those? From everything I've read, EOTech is the standard everything else is compared with. I'd appreciate hearing from anybody who has experience with them. Thanks.

The EOTec and the Aimpoint are great sights, for Military guns. I have used both of them.

However on a hunting rifle, I much prefer the Docter Optic. They are smaller, lighter and more compact.

Also they AUTOMATICALLY adjust for the light conditions.

In fact I use a Docter Optic on my "House" AR.

The EO and the Aimpoint are just too big and heavy for a hunting rifle, especially a Double Rifle or a Hard Kicker...

IMHO of course.

One issue with these type reflex sights. They are a LED reflected off a glass screen. Any fogging or rain and they are worthless. A fair weather sight!
I have had one on a AR for years.

Saw an article some time ago where they used the front scope mount holes to add a short piece of weaver rail and mounted an Aimpoint T1. Author seemed to love the setup.

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Originally posted by eezridr:
One issue with these type reflex sights. They are a LED reflected off a glass screen. Any fogging or rain and they are worthless. A fair weather sight!
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Quite true,plus there is a little reflective distortion about the dot....but a great sight if your eyes are past prime for conventional open sights.

I have one on 500 NE Heym....no recoil problems, and plan on putting another on a 470 NE.

Both Leupold and Trijicon make them also.The Trijicon can be manually adjusted, beside the auto function, to match your desired brightness which will reduce the distortion of the dot.

But getting responsive delivery from Trijicon is a joke.

Folks, thanks for the points to consider. Mounting it on the receiver in QD fashion would permit the use of the iron sights. Could be an important factor if that's the only sight, and I get caught in the rain!

Biebs, how do you mount it on the receiver of a DR?

No, It's a 577 T-Rex.

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Biebs, how do you mount it on the receiver of a DR?

Hey Don

Send that thing on down here to me, I have two brand new tubes of JB Weld, and two cases of some really serious black duct tape! I will fix you up buddy, no worries!

Michael

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However on a hunting rifle, I much prefer the Docter Optic. They are smaller, lighter and more compact.

450 & Biebs

Went over to SWFA, they seem to have the Docters at a good price. Need to research it a bit more I suppose, but I am sure 450 knows this.

???

Does it come ready to mount on a weaver base? Or is that purchased separately? I am slightly confused between the docter site and SWFA, SWFA does not mention anything, docter shows a mount for weaver at $98 extra cost? And too, battery consumption?

I like the way it looks, small, light, fast and handy! I would also like to try one! Put it on one of my Winchesters!!!!!!

Another thing, sighted in and easy on, easy off, it would make a dandy backup to the scope should the scope fail! Light, easy to put in the gun case with the other equipment.......... Lot's of advantages I can see down the road!

Michael

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Originally posted by michael458:

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Biebs, how do you mount it on the receiver of a DR?

Hey Don

Send that thing on down here to me, I have two brand new tubes of JB Weld, and two cases of some really serious black duct tape! I will fix you up buddy, no worries!

Michael

Geeez Michael, why had I not thought of that??

Suprised he hasnt suggested a powder-actuated nail gun ...

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

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Originally posted by michael458:

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:
Biebs, how do you mount it on the receiver of a DR?

Hey Don

Send that thing on down here to me, I have two brand new tubes of JB Weld, and two cases of some really serious black duct tape! I will fix you up buddy, no worries!

Michael

Geeez Michael, why had I not thought of that??

Ya see, stick with me and Sam, very little we can't sort out in short order! HEH HEH.......

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Suprised he hasnt suggested a powder-actuated nail gun .

Thanks Doc, that's a great idea. I have an air powered nail gun, maybe I will start on your 600 OK and go from there?


LOL

Michael

So when are you going to trick Sam into shooting my 600OK with the CEB#13s at 2,000fps?

Doc

I think Sam is out of the picture for the time being, it's his busy season so he is dead at it for the next couple of months! I think the work is going to fall on my shoulders. Next week is starting to look good however!

M

Sights fogging up?

Try a little RainX always worked for me in the Green Swamp of central Florida.
I hear there are even better products out there now.

Cheers, John

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Originally posted by Phatman:
Sights fogging up?

Try a little RainX always worked for me in the Green Swamp of central Florida.
I hear there are even better products out there now.

Cheers, John

DARN GOOD TIP there Phat!

Ive successfully used a EOTech 512 on my .600OK and have a doctor optic mounted on my .50AE home invasion demotivator. Has held up to quite a few rounds. Duck Tape can be used to hold em onto DR quite elegantly!-Rob

The Docter comes without a "mount".

The mount is extra. They make them for Weaver rail, several different pistol slides etc.

Also several German companies make special mounts for guns like the Blaser, Claw mounts, some of the German pivot mounts etc.

For double rifles there is a mount made for Heym.

The DO is always "ON". It comes with a cover that puts it in a sleep mode.
The battery is a Lithium #2032, tha same as S&B and Swaro's illuminated reticle scopes.

The battery lasts from 3 to 5 years.

NE450#2

Thanks for the info. As I thought, need to purchase base separate. I would want Weaver rail, as everything I have is on that base.

VERY EXCELLENT battery 3-5 yrs---Leave it on, replace it every 2 yrs and Good TO Go!

I think a wise choice. I think I must get one of these and try it out!

How about it Biebs, I am in for one!

Michael

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How about it Biebs, I am in for one!

Great, buy 2 and send me one for intensive evaluation. I won't even charge!!!

Hey Guys interested in the Doctor sight, its
a great sight but I chose the Trijicon RMR dual illumination. It
is smaller, lighter and no battery. The illumination is provided by fiber optics and a
tritium dot. You can get the 3.5 mm dot in red but not in amber. Can be ordered with mount to fit Weaver bases.

I put one on a Weaver rail I made especially for my Krieghoff double rifle. Trijicon told
me they had tested these on all kinds of rifles including 50 BMG and 20mm cannon with no problems.

It is a little more expensive than the Doctor
by the time you get the mounts for the dr. but
not a lot. Suggest you check them out too.

Good shooting.

Tetonka
DRSS
Big Bore Trash

Hello,

Burris fast fire mount will work on the Docter sight.
$ 30 at Midway.

Nitro

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$ 30 at Midway.

Thanks for the tip!

Never considered one of these devices before - might have to give one a try ...