06 January 2008, 05:29
jeffeosso45-70 IN AFRICA
quote:
Originally posted by DWright:
Thinking a double rifle in .458 Lott, with a nice heavy cast bullet, at a moderate velocity would be some awful fun plinking.
Rob has one .. one of has, and MY favorite hunting rifles
06 January 2008, 05:39
JPKquote:
Originally posted by Uglystick:
I am a huge fan of the 45 70. The Guide gun is my GO TO gun for big game when hunting in an area where the shots ate likley to be at 100 yards or less.
I have killed black bears, many deer and moose with it. I would not hessitate to use it against ANY animal in North America.
That being said I am also logical and not a blind fan of the gun and cartrige combonation.
I would hunt buff, lion and certainly leopard with it. I would NEVER go after an ele with it.
And as much as I love the gun I can't think of why I wouldn't rather use either my 375 H&H or 458 win on anything that is big and hunts back in Africa.
This is good thinking, Only problem is that the 45/70 isn't legal in the great majority of places where free range, wild cape buff are hunted.
But if someone handed me a 45/70 and no proper DG rifle was availble I'd be happy to go hunt a buff - not so with Elephant!!!
JPk
06 January 2008, 07:24
RobgunbuilderI'd bet good money the 45-70 has killed less game inAfrica than the .22LR.-Rob
06 January 2008, 07:27
Macifej.30 Carbine has killed more than 45-70.
06 January 2008, 07:59
KC CarlinMy dads 45-70 can beat up your dads 45-70
06 January 2008, 08:21
DWrightThe Ol' Elephant hunter 'Bell' done kilt more O them Elephants with a .275 Rigby then all of us here on this forum will ever kill put togther, no matter what we use. but ain't it a real neat to tell each other what will and what won't.
Ok guys. . . . . take it from here.
06 January 2008, 08:25
MacifejDWright since you're still gracing us with your presence maybe you could step up and volunteer to do some load development for the 45-70 metric??
06 January 2008, 08:32
AzGuy"Thee 45/70"......
It excites some guys so much they "play" with themselves
It bothers some guys so much they
on themselves.....
Not MY choice for a DG cartirdge (have killed an American Bison with one) but my guess this debate/circle jerk will go on forever
06 January 2008, 08:35
MacifejI've hiked the Grand Canyon. I've muled the Grand Canyon. It is definitely a big ass hole of epic proportions but it certainly didn't change my life!
06 January 2008, 08:44
AzGuyquote:
Originally posted by Macifej:
I've hiked the Grand Canyon. I've muled the Grand Canyon. It is definitely a big ass hole of epic proportions but it certainly didn't change my life!
Next time OPEN your eyes and try to visualize the billion+ years of history around you!!
PS --- being a Economics guy, I love your Tag and FWIW..... Mr. Smith was/is correct.
06 January 2008, 08:53
DWrightquote:
Originally posted by Macifej:
DWright since you're still gracing us with your presence maybe you could step up and volunteer to do some load development for the 45-70 metric??
Done lot's of load development for the .45-70, mainly because I shoot too much, and am too cheap to spend money for store bought bullets, so have been casting my own for 40 years; AND anything with a .45 prefix in it is OK with me. Am really a fan of the .458 Lott. Don't care for many of the bottle neck cases simply because it narrows the weight range of proper bullet length for the case. More flexability with a straight, or I should say, straighter, case. My old bullet business, ( Black Lion Bullets) sold mostly .458 dia. hard cast bullets for a variaty of velocities. Now. . . where were we. . . ?
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