Any experience out there with the MS1910 in 9.5x56? Thanks.

Here is my 1910 Mannlicher. It has a pop-up tang peep. The gun disasembles with finger operated knobs.

I've found loaded ammo and brass, from time to time, at www.ows-ammunition.com

I've only taken it to the range once, but it put a bunch of 270 grain .375" bullets at 2150 into 3.5" at 100 yards. The action is the smoothest that I've ever experienced, bar none... it just is in a different catagory than any other bolt gun.

I'd feel comfortable hunting with it for any plains game, including eland. While I haven't hunted with this caliber, I took a .375 Express double rifle to Africa this summer. It has a similar velocity and also shoots 270 grain bullets. I took zebra, wildebeest, impala, warthogs, etc., with it and all were one shot kills, so the 270 grain bullet at 2100 fps, or so, will do just fine with well placed bullets, IMHO.

I've just started working with a 1910 M-S in this chambering. So far I've been disappointed with velocities at recommended loads. My goal was to achieve exactly what you report, JudgeG. Would you mind sharing your loading data?

Hi Guys:
My concern is in noticing that RCBS offers different product codes for 9.5x56 and 9.5x57. I have not taken a cast of my chamber yet but I was under the impression that it was still a rose by any other name. I realize there is also the English moniker. I plan to use cast slugs and would like to try the Hornady 220 gr. if the twist will toss such short slugs. That bullet has been a great varmint slug in my Sako Mannlicher carbine.

Dear Tanker,

I have two M1910's and I use RCBS dies marked for 9.5x57 (P/N 56448). What can you tell us about your rifle? I would also suggest contacting RCBS to find out what the difference is.

Dear Eric,

What powder are you using? I've been able to get over 2200 fps with a 270 gr bullet using RL-15 in my M1910 rifle. Start at 52 grs and work up. (FYI I was getting about 2050 fps with 52 grs.)

Washougal Chris

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What powder are you using? I've been able to get over 2200 fps with a 270 gr bullet using RL-15 in my M1910 rifle. Start at 52 grs and work up.

WashougalChris:
I've tried 4895 and 3031. I'll try RL-15 and see what happens. Thanks for the info.

My rifle is pretty much standard for a 1910MS. Full stock, double sets, claw mounts missing the claw. Seems like it would be fun with some lighter slugs. 'Course the flip sights will probably favor closer to the standard loading. Have always liked these carbines even though the bolt reach is a bit awkward unless you are a knuckle dragger. No offense to you knuckle draggers out there. I envy your abilities.

RCBS will often make the same dies with different markings. Their 8x60S and 8x60RS are identical, they just mark them differently (and they use different shellplates). 9.5x56, 9.5x57 and .375x2-1/4" should all be the same.

The 1910 has a rotary mag that is made for the 270 gr round nose bullet. You can use a different weight, but it must have the same ogive or you will have problems loading 3 or more rounds.

I thought it odd that different part numbers would be used for the same item. I was wondering if I needed to make a chamber casting. Is there much variation noted between MS rifles? I was going to begin with Norma 9.3x57 brass as I had read that this was the best place to start. Seems this begs to be a cast bullet gun. Along with the Hornady 270 RN, I would imagine there should be ample bluff nosed slugs out there to please the magazine.

The 9.3x57 is the usual choice. However, most 1910's were meant for Africa and have oversized chambers. The 9.3 case is smaller in the base and gets blown out quite a bit when fireformed. You might want to try a few rounds in your rifle before you invest in lot of 9.3 cases.

You can still find 9.5x57 cases if you look around. All I have left is a box of 10 Berdan primed cases. They are pretty much a one-shot deal unless you have a Berdan decapping tool.

I have not fired it. This leads me back to wondering whether or not I need a chamber casting. I guess it wouldn't hurt. I have no loaded ammo. Although I have not searched, I'm sure I can poke around the shows and find some old Kynoch or RWS laying about. Then I could touch off a few and measure those. Seems like the casting might be more accurate. I had read that the Norma bases were smaller and that is why the 9.3 was a good start. I don't know.

Dear Tanker,

I've had good luck using Norma 9.3x57 brass. All I do is run through the 9.5 FL sizing die, then load as usual. Like Kurt C recommended, I'd try a few rounds and see how they work in your rifle. Send me a PM if you have trouble finding some.

What sort of proof marks are stamped on your barrel?

Washougal Chris

That caliber is about on par with a .358 Win. or a .348 win., not a bad family to be in.

Dear WashougalChris:
My proofs are crown over N, St.m.G., 17gr. (this one is hard to see). I have had the gun a few years and just never really got around to playing with it. I really like mid and big bore carbines and especially fullstocks. The MS is intriging due to it's wonderful feel and old world good looks. The awkward bolt handle position and pecariously thin grip don't turn me on but that slick mechanical marvel of a mechanism just makes me want to cradle it. If you have one you probably know what I mean.

Anyone know of a 1910 for sale? I've been looking for a clean example for the past two years. Those I found were greatly over priced. I'm not picky about outside condition. I just want a nice bore and original (no pads). I have a 1903 that I love. I just want to complete a pair. The cartridge sounds great. I want this as a possible subsitute for a 9.3x74 for feral hogs. Thanks for all! - Greg

Howdy,
I have played with the 9.5x56/57 - .375 Rimless NE off and on since 1970. I have a number of loads or it, the sources of which date back into the 1940s. I cannot say for certain what the problem is, but none of my loads with IMR 3031 and IMR 4895 ever lived up to the expected velocity from my Powley Computer. Have read a lot about the use of the 9.5x56/57 in Africa, and it certainly seems to have worked well enough when used in the ranges it was designed to handle, i.e., soft skinned game. It was never a round for elephant, buffs, or rhino. The slick little rifles and carbines it was chambered in were ideal lightweight stalking rifles, indeed, the first one I ever owned was entirely too light, kicked like a mule. Sadly, when I got my Africa option, I used a "standard" Mannlicher-Schoenauer .30-06 rifle instead of the 9.5mm. Oh well.
Larry

Larry:
Do you have any loads that you found to recommend? How did you make your brass? Thanks.