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Ok guys, I thought my appitite for a big bore would be sufficed by my 358 norma, now I want a bigger gun, I don't know a whole lot about the larger bores, but have decided I want a 375 H&H
If you had $1,000 to buy a 375 H&H w/ iron sights what would you buy/do to the rifle
 
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If you're right-handed, look into the CZ 550. It seems to come already set up for hunting, with few problems reported by the owners.

Spend the rest on a set of good rings and a proper scope.

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George S Says it best. Buy the CZ550. Biggest action(for conversion later when you want something bigger). Flat top receiver already set up for rings(Warne QD of course), with a Meopta Artemis 2100 3-12x50 or Artemis 3100 1-4x22 both with lighted dot and 30 mm diameter tube.

You are ready.

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I'd spend just a little more and get me a decent used pre-64 mod 70 Win. I'd much rather have an old beat up pre 64 with a good bore and function than any new production rifle on todays market thats been dinked with by the bean counters.
 
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Budget another $500 and get a decent pre-1964 Model 70 Winchester, an old Belgian-made Browning Safari, or else a current Ruger Magnum. The rest is junk until you get to at least the $5,000 custom rifle level, that is, unless you can find an old Interarms Whitworth Express.........

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Another rifle and cartridge to consider is the Steyr ProHunter in .376 Steyr. This one is on gunbroker.com for $588.

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I used mine on a big eland last year. [Wink]

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Dark Paladin... Your 358 Norma is an excellent caliber, very close in performance to the 375. If you get a 375 your BIG BORE craving will not be satisfied. [Frown] The BIG BORE will keep calling and calling you. [Eek!] Might as well go ahead and get something 40+. Any of the 416's or 458's can be loaded down to where they are fun to shoot, giving you time and practice as you load up to full power loads. Especially the 458's because 45/70 type bullets can be bought very inexpensively. The 458 Lott seems to be the hot ticket right now. Might as well go whole hog and get a real Big Bore. [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
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I agree with NE 450 #2 ( wish he'd change that long moniker ) if you have a 358 Norma, your so close to a 375 that your close to duplication. I get a 416 or 404..
 
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Maybe a cz .416 Rigby would be a gun you would like?
 
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no the 416 kicks too hard, do any of the large bore 4s' or 5s' have a manageable recoil?
 
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The CZ550 gives you the most bang for the buck. I'd also look at the Browning SS stalker with Boss. It's short ugly and deadly and not too expensive. I'ts also a gun you won't be afraid to hunt with.-Rob
 
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Dark Paladin,

If recoil is important, then by all means look at the .376 Steyr. I find mine to be a pussy cat compared to my two .375 H&Hs. [Wink]

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I am right handed but left eye dominant, because of this I started shooting left handed 20 years ago This has worked out great in all respects other than one.....rifle selection!

I bought a Browning Stainless Stalker in 375HH several yars ago. It is the standard model without the boss system ( I hate the noise!). It is very accurate and the recoil is not bad at all.This rifle is also very light weight which makes it a dream to carry.

If I were looking for a new 375 today I would probably get the Winchester model 70 classic LH in 375HH. I like th emore traditional look and the added weight would make it even easier to shoot.
 
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Dark Paladin Try a 404 Jeffery, one of the 450/400's in a double rifle, or a 416 with a 400 gr. bullet at 2150 fps. In a proper weight rifle, 9 1/4 to 10 lbs I think they kick less than the typical 375. I have owned 3 375's, still have two, I would much rather shoot my 450/400 3 1/4.
 
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Dark Paladin, the various .458's & .50 + I reckon will kick heaps more than a .416.
 
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Allen Day and Ray

I have been looking at an old Whitworth Express in 375 H&H. It is in 95% to 98% condition.

The blue book indicates it should be worth $545.00. The seller is asking $600.00

What do you gentlemen think it is worth?

Thanks

Craftsman
 
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Ok: Here's my take on this one. 375 factory loads recoil, but, they give you a hauling ass, large bullet.

If you reload, all of this discussion becomes moot.

That's the real answer. You can download a 375 to exceed your 358, but, not kick. You could also take a 458 CZ 550 and bore the chamber for 450 AI. You can then load up or down, fire factory 458 Win mag ammo, 458 lott ammo, or, AI
reloads, if you have any real scary beasts around.

I know a guy that loads 650 grain bullets at 2500 fps, 50 caliber.

He swears by the 458 AI, saying it's very efficent, very accurate, and, can allow stopper ballistics in excess of what most can handle, without a brake.

He also suggests a 600 grain, 2400 fps load is possible, and, it will get attention at both ends...

In other words, Yes, we do knock the buffalo down with the first shot. He might get up, but, chances are REAL good, he's going down, with good bullet placement.

A stopper it really is...
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Originally posted by Dark Paladin:
If you had $1,000 to buy a 375 H&H w/ iron sights what would you buy/do to the rifle

It's your rifle. What do YOU want to do with it?

If you're staying on this side of the pond, I'd suggest a Remington M700 stainless synthetic. Personally, I'd loose the plastic stock and get something with a better feel for it but the rifle itself is good for duty on all ocasions. The rifle has a good combination of price/performance and while it comes with iron sights, it works best scoped.

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Craftsman,
Those guns have jumped in price a good deal lately so I think that is a decent price to pay and you could always get your money back. They will continue to increase in value....
 
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Ray

Thanks for the info.

One more question..........Was it the Whitworth .375 H&H that had a tendency to chronograph a little higher velocity than the average rifle?
 
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Craftsman- yes, the Whitwirth was the rifle in question. Check it out well before buying, I've run across parts guns before. - Dan
 
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