hi...the other day i came upon a Mauser 66 in 458 Win. Mag....the rifle had double-set triggers??..i've heard that Mauser offered the 66 with interchangeable barrels....but set-triggers on a caliber like this seem outta place an wierd....anyone know why?
zubin

p.s. could this probably be coz the other barrel was chambered for the 284 Win Mag??

My CZ 550 458 Lott has a single set trigger, set it's less than a pound!! I don't know why anyone would want a set trigger on something like this but to each his own.

Some of the more traditional folks in Germany are all crazy about set triggers and have little knowledge about dangerous game hunting. Someone like that might order a 458 with set triggers.
If the rifle was supposed to be used primarily in 284, a set trigger would have made more sense.

Set trigger don't bother me too much, I usually adjust them to work well without having to set the trigger.

Yes, the thought of a double-set trigger on a .458 WM makes you shudder, doesn't it?? In fact, I have seen very few Mauser 66s withoout the wretched things. Fortunately, most of the rifles were not in .458...

Here in Europe, the only triggers I have seen on the big bore CZ rifles were single set. Is that the case with the CZ guns sold in the US as well??

- mike

All of the big-bore CZ's that I've handled have had the single set trigger.

Folks that condem the double set triggers have probably never gone to the trouble to learn to use them...

They are a great trigger, and you have the option of the 1.5 lb. trigger for running shots and standing shots if you like or a 4 lb trigger for any shot you choose, you don't have to set them to shoot the gun...they were designed for running shots in a set mode...

I love them on any rifle...although I don't presently have a rifle with them..but I have used them a lot in the past...

I think the CZ550 set trigger works pretty well. It's just a matter of personal preference - if you don't like a set trigger, then get an aftermarket replacement.

I've got double set triggers in my Steyr PII which goes every time I go to Africa.I set the triggers 95% of the time.I do not have them on my .416 nor do I plan on putting them on the .505 I am having built.

It's not that I don't like them it's just that on a heavy rifle I don't see their utility.

There utility is on a running shot at game you just pass by an touch one off, its the best running shot trigger in the world...and game runs a lot of the time...

Ray is correct. I have used double set triggers on several different Steyr rifles. Once you learn how to use them they are a real benefit.
On the Steyr rifle you can adjust the trigger so the set trigger is de-activated if you so desire. I do not know if you can do that on the Mauser 66.

hi..
thanks guys for all the info.....i too dont see the need for a set trigger on a heavy caliber.... but like Ray said it'd be great for running game and for those long, long shots where you'd have to touch off very gently....
thanks once again guys...

zubin

I can understand the purpose for the set trigger for running shots, but I could only imagine if you set the trigger, and touch the trigger before being fully set up for the shot... BTW, what is the difference between a single and double set trigger?

Just like the names imply, single and double triggers.

Single set is pushed forward to set

Double set, the rear trigger sets the front trigger

Either type of trigger can be used without setting

Just use the single trigger normally

With the double, just use the front trigger for a normal pull

Hog Killer

That's right, I remember now. Aren't some black powder rifles double set? That might be where I remember the double set thing from.

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Originally posted by 500grains:
I think the CZ550 set trigger works pretty well. It's just a matter of personal preference - if you don't like a set trigger, then get an aftermarket replacement.

Are any available?? The only one I have heard of seemed to come from a particular US smith (forget the name), but maybe I am uninformed in this area??

Re: using set triggers (be they double or single set). I'm going to stay way out of telling anybody whether they should use set triggers or not. They are an acquired taste, and if you have gotten used to them, it can be hard to switch (or vice versa).

How the set triggers are adjusted is also a big part of the equation. In Europe (home of the set trigger), a lot of set triggers are adjusted WAY too low in set mode, in fact so low it is not possible to be on the trigger before you want to shoot. This often leads to the shooter slapping the trigger, and thus pulling the shot. Quite apart from the safety issues involved with set triggers - remembering to unset etc.

In the US, you adjust your triggers quite a bit harder. I guess thus the preference from some of you to use a set trigger for running shots - I can certainly see the advantage of a 1.5 vs a 4lbs trigger. Personally, I would not choose the set trigger as my solution for this problem, though. In fact, I would consider it a somewhat academic argument, as in my experience it is pretty hard to find the time or the nerve to set your trigger in a situation where you need the running shot. IMHO, it is also hard to deal with a gun that has (or can have) two different trigger pulls. But, as I said above: I'm going to stay well clear of telling anybody what they should do or prefer. To each his own, I guess.

- mike

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Originally posted by gixxer:
That's right, I remember now. Aren't some black powder rifles double set? That might be where I remember the double set thing from.

Yep,

Most of the really good shooting ML rifles had double set triggers. These set triggers were a big help with the slower lock time and the long hammer throw found on the MLs.

I had an 1881 Marlin in 45-70, with optional factory dst, and a Ballard #5 Pacific, 45-70 aslo with dst. Both worked really well. The Marlin with trigger set broke at 8oz, the Ballard only neened 1 1/2oz to set it off.

Hog Killer

Mauser 66s have a rapid change trigger group - you can swap from the double set to standard trigger in a minute or two - which I do with my 458 barrel as I worry I might pull the rear (setting) trigger in a moment of excitement.

mike

Cool!
- mike