Does anyone have any experience with this Barnes 500gr. bullets?

Thanks
Pyzda

112 Grains of RL15, IIRC. Check your manuals. Makes big flash boom and pummels your shoulder. What else ya wanna know?

Pyzda

A 500TSX @ 2600fps crushed the shoulder of this big buffalo. The right leg was rendered usless and penitration was great as no bullets were recoverable!

Now that's using "enough gun" ! :-)

nice lazermark

Thanks Karl! You have an eye for quality!



A 350gr TSX @ 3050fps settled this boars account! It entered on the cheek and exited in front of the off hind quarter. It flatted this boar!

Love to see a thread not (for a change) bashing Barnes. They are all I hunt with. Every kill one shot and no animal ever lost.
Buddy's wife killed a large cow Buffalo on a Yellowstone permit at 200+ yards with a "mere" 270 WCF and and a 130 "old X". Broke both shoulders, and is still flying. No tracking required.
Dropped a speed goat @230, quartering away, this year with my 1885 25-06 and the new 80 gr TTSX starting out @3997 (love that Super Performance powder in a 28" bbl). In behind last rib, out opposite shoulder, no tracking required.

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Originally posted by Coloradoyaler:
Thanks Karl! You have an eye for quality!



A 350gr TSX @ 3050fps settled this boars account! It entered on the cheek and exited in front of the off hind quarter. It flatted this boar!

Coloradoyaler

Very impresive velocity, now what about the 500gr. TSX?.

The 350gr/3050fps that is about 100-120fps faster than what I was ever able to achieve with my Mark V about 30 years ago,without expanding the primer pockets.

It was just a few rounds experiment with Hornady's 350gr. RN.

Any of my nine .460Wea's (Rob it was only one Mark V) never touched anything lighter than 500gr"s ever since.

Over 31 years of hunting and some estimated 20 000-25000 rounds later I only used two calibres, 300gr/.375H&H and 500gr/.460Wea. both loaded to the "same" velocity of 2625fps. whereabouts.

In my case it was a safe maximum in both calibres.

I only used the .375 H&H for a cull from a 4WDs, as there was no need to have that small calibre rifle to be properly shoudered.

It could be fired from any position, even one handed if it need to be.

It cuts on time, fuel and the night cull can be far more productive.

Now I'm thinking; if I could get the same 2600fps. whereabouts with more flight friendly BC from the .460Wea. I could even more simplify the things.

Have only one calibre to worry about. The .460Wea. could be my only hunting rifle. From pole to pole, on everything and anything.

The cost of the Norma .460Wea brass is absolutely rediculous, but after 31 years and 100% hunting satisfaction is hard to switch to something new,

unless it is something big .700" BMG case based would do me just fine for now.

Pyzda

Pyzda

In the book Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges, Bob Hagel has a chapter on the 460 Weatherby. He list a load of 114gr of IMR 4064. Out of my 26" barrel weatherby it does 3050fps. What is the actual barrel length of your 460wby. Is yours one with a pendlton break which actualy has a 24" barrel?

Coloradoyaler

I'm not desputing your velocity,( the Barnes bullet has bands, the Hornady is full body).

Mine unfortunately had the Pendleton brake (made in Japan 81) so it had the 24" functional barrel.

I had nine different .460Wea.s and none of them ever was able to achieve Weatherby published velocity without expanding the primer pockets.

My only load for the last 30 years is 120gr. and 122gr. of IMR 4350/500gr.Hornady FMJ/RNSP.

120gr./4831 IMR with MY OWN 730gr.? hardcasts in single shots. (4.2" OAL)

Pyzda

Pyzda

I have used your same load and have achieved 2650fps out of my 26" barrel. It won't work with the 500gr TSX as there is not enough case volume for the long TSX. I use 116 gr of H414 and get an average of 2600fps. I used this load for the bison. Brass life is excellent. My primer pockets get loose after the 5th or 6th load.

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Originally posted by Coloradoyaler:
Thanks Karl! You have an eye for quality!

My first bigbore was a 460 lazermark with the pendleton dekicker. sold it for various reasons a long time ago but always wanted another.

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Originally posted by Coloradoyaler:
Thanks Karl! You have an eye for quality!

My first bigbore was a 460 lazermark with the pendleton dekicker. sold it for various reasons a long time ago but always wanted another.

Karl

I had exactly the same problem. My three only reasons to sell the Mark V .460Wea De-luxe was the muzzle brake, OAL and the shiny stock.

While on hunting my companions use to put their guns directly into the tray of a 4WDs and I needed a hard case or at least a soft padded gun bag.

The last straw was when one day I was confronted by a shrub so thick that I couldn't see more than 10 feet into it.

That was the final day of my Mark V and I never ever had a shiny "beautiful" stock on any of my rifles ever since.

I don't franticly look for one, but if I'll come across a cheap Mark V .460/.378Wea. I won't hessitate to buy one again.

Pyzda

How about and Accurmark or a Euromark?

I have a 460, when I bought it the stock was oil finished (not shiny). It needed a reblue so I had it bead blasted to a matt finish and a real muzzle brake installed.
The load I use is 114 of H414 and the 500 gr TSX, 500 banded solid, and the 500 Hornady soft point. The mix of those bullets group about 1½”.
I shot an eland with the TSX, good results, a broadside shot, ran about 40 yards leaving 3’ in diameter blood spots on both sides. My PH used it to finish a hippo that another hunter in camp had shot and as a backup (with the Hornadys) when my buddy shot his lion
We were there to hunt Buff and I had heard the TSX were good so that is what I was using, did not get a Buff.


Mark