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montana rifleman PH
28 April 2006, 06:15
tiggertatemontana rifleman PH
quote:
Originally posted by Fjold:
Does anyone know the count of lefties?
The website says 71 pcs left hand and 306 rt hand.
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28 April 2006, 08:06
FjoldThanks, they used to not have the number up. I was thinking of getting on the list but truthfully I don't think that the lefties will ever come out.
I signed up on the first announcement for the short actions years back and the lefties were the first one to meet the minimum quantity.
I have a one digit serial number.
Frank
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28 April 2006, 08:29
NortmanFrom what I understand, there is no problem regarding left or righthanded actions.
Since they are cast, it should just be a matter of mirroring(sp) the action when they are making the molds. Thats easy to do on the computer.
Just phone and ask them. Could be Im mistaken.
28 April 2006, 19:12
FjoldI was going off of Jeffeosso's post (below). Besides, looking at all of the options the long action will handle the 404 Jeff that I want to build. The PH size action would be a waste.
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
To be clear, they said they will do a run of "handed" actions when there is 400 orders for that HAND... so, 400 lefts, and 400 rights.
I figure the Righty will start end of year... and lefty will start a year later...
or, I expect to see the first ones trickle out in a year/
I don't know what caliber i'll do mine in.. but the serial number is
470mbogo
jeffe
Frank
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28 April 2006, 19:21
Iron BuckThey put me on the list for a LH action. I asked specifically about the availability of the left hand action.My e-mail reply did not get into right/left hand specifics. But it did say:
quote:
Currently I do not believe we'll see them until some time next year.
28 April 2006, 20:17
woodsracerquote:
Originally posted by MarcF:
On a 505 Gibbs, the mag will hold 4 down and one in the pipe.
Marc
OK, NOW the Montana PH has my attention! Four down in the .505 Gibbs, and probably five down in the Rigby. Hmmmmmm? .505 Gibbs or a .470 Mbogo???

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28 April 2006, 21:35
jeffeossoquote:
Originally posted by Nortman:
From what I understand, there is no problem regarding left or righthanded actions.
Since they are cast, it should just be a matter of mirroring(sp) the action when they are making the molds. Thats easy to do on the computer.
Just phone and ask them. Could be Im mistaken.
I've spoken with these guys, at length on the subject. They had been very clear. They will be making the X ahnded mold when the X handed action gets 400 orders. There is a huge amount of machine time, and therefore money, involved in making the molds at the quality level we will all demand.
I tried to with them about the basic facts, that there is curently a 3 to 1 order, and they chould make a 4 cavity mold, 3 rights and a left, and get the product moving. No dice.
So, I am still on the list, and still waiting
jeffe
28 April 2006, 22:12
woodsracerJeffe, the only thing that I have a SERIOUS RESERVATION about is look at all their current BACKORDERS!!!
Just click on the different Actions' links at the bottom
HERE. By the looks of it, the PH won't be coming out for OVER a year!!!

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28 April 2006, 22:41
PeglegSo are these actions going to be investment castings or forged and machined actions?
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28 April 2006, 22:43
jeffeossoPegleg,
like all their actions, and all ruger (who's doing the casting) bolt guns, these are cast actions .. forged and machiend would cost at least 4x to be cometitive (see GMA)
jeffe
28 April 2006, 22:54
PeglegJeffe- Thanks so much. I'm thinking of building a 505Gibbs and as I understand from the forum that this would be a great action for the Gibbs project. I really like the 505 and have been thinking of converting my Rigby to a Gibbs. This would allow me to keep the Rigby as is. Kinda got a soft spot for the Rigby, too.
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28 April 2006, 23:44
woodsracerquote:
Originally posted by Pegleg:
I really like the 505 ............. This would allow me to keep the Rigby as is. Kinda got a soft spot for the Rigby, too.
Sounds familiar!

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29 April 2006, 23:22
billhilly66So, how do you get on the list? Do you use the online order form? How much do you pay initially? Thanks.
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30 April 2006, 04:02
woodsracerquote:
Originally posted by billhilly66:
So, how do you get on the list? Do you use the online order form? How much do you pay initially? Thanks.
Montana Professional Hunter. I believe that you only have to pay HALF, when the order is up to their introductory price numbers (400 units), and then the last half upon delivery.
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I have to admit I am giving serious thought to bailing out on the one I have on order. I am bothered a bit like someone else mentioned above about all of the present back orders MRC has on their other actions. I am glad to see they are apparently selling their actions well, but I am starting to wonder if the PH action really will get off the ground in 2006. Much as I hate to say it a CZ 550 is looking better all the time.
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