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| I had the same issue...
get a necg blade from sight, and file till it works... then take it out, measure height, and call necg for that height sight.
or, call cz, and ask for a lower rearer
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| jeffe: thanks for your suggestions. I will call CZ-USA about whether I can get lower rear leafs from them, since I don't seem to be able to find a blade front sight made by NECG anywhere on the internet.
I am curious as to this business of the rifle printing so very high with the factory sights. CZ's manual that comes with the rifle claims that the express sights on that rifle are adjusted at the factory; and the rifle comes with a target with three holes, supposedly the result of test-firing that particular rifle at 50 meters (about 55 yards). The test shots are pretty much right at the level of the bullseye of the test target, and are not at all too high. If those test rounds were really fired from that rifle at the factory, I am wondering why my rifle shoots so very high at 100 yards. Perhaps you or others have wondered the same thing. Of course, the rifle may have been firing 300-grain bullets at the factory. I have been shooting 270-grain bullets (with an assortment of different powders); but it seems unlikely, in the .375 H&H, that the difference between a 270-grain bullet and a 300-grain bullet could equal 12" at 100 yards. |
| Posts: 189 | Location: San Jose, CA | Registered: 02 January 2003 |
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| You can also just do it the old fashioned way and gently file down the notch or "V" in the fixed rear sight while at the range. I have done this and as long as you are careful it works very well. |
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| Thanks, Jeffe. Did this front sight fit into the ramp on your rifle, or did you need to replace the ramp with a NECG one in order to install the sight on the barrel? |
| Posts: 189 | Location: San Jose, CA | Registered: 02 January 2003 |
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| Take off the front two folding leaves and throw them away. Then file down the remaining leaf. |
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| Bigbrass,
my CZ .416 shoots about 10" LOW at 50 meters, I need to flip up the 300 yards leaf to get it to hit zero at 50, with 400 grs at 2300 fps. This may change some when i get up to 2400, considered the "classical" velocity, but not all that much.
I'll get around to replacing sights one of these days. Don't care much for filing until I've settled on one load, one bullet, or two that print the same.
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| Posts: 1717 | Location: Alberta, Canada | Registered: 17 March 2003 |
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| BigBrass, take a file and file the rear sight for your chosen load. Most express sights are designed for this to be done. |
| Posts: 400 | Location: Murfreesboro,TN,USA | Registered: 16 January 2002 |
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| Don't be too surprised with yours at 12" high...
Mine came in 4" LOW at 50yards - and that was with the lowest bead they make!
So, I had to have the rear sight welded up and filed back in to POI. |
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| Thanks for your information, guys.
I wonder why there are all these problems with the open sights having to be adjusted or changed, in view of the fact that each rifle is supposedly tested on a sight-in target at the factory? Sure, the owners of the rifles might be shooting different loads than CZ tested with at the factory, but I don't think that different loads can completely explain rifles that print 12" high or 10" low. |
| Posts: 189 | Location: San Jose, CA | Registered: 02 January 2003 |
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| Loosen up the forend screw and see what that does. The stock could be warped upward. Could be you need to free float it some, so to speak, even with the forend screw in place. |
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| Bill Stewart: That's an interesting idea. Thanks for that suggestion. The CZ Safari Magnum does have a screw through the forend, which evidently attaches to some sort of second recoil lug thing under the barrel. Thus, the barrel is tightly secured to the forend at that location. I am not sure how it would work to let the barrel "float" when that recoil lug is supposed to be screwed down tight to the forend. If the screw were too tight, it seems as though it would have the effect of making the rifle shoot low, rather than high. Has anyone played with that screw on the CZ magnum, to see what would happen? |
| Posts: 189 | Location: San Jose, CA | Registered: 02 January 2003 |
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| The purpose of the front screw is to hold onto the front lug for spreading out the recoil forces on the stock (to keep it from splitting), as you said. But that doesn't mean the stock isn't warped. Take out the screw and see if the forend tip is in contact with the barrel. |
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