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Ray, Have you built a Lott on a pre - 64? The rifle I just handled today was so marked. Had a leather covered pad, 3 folding on a rib, front bl. band, banded swivel, Lyman receiver, Talley bases/rings held a 2.5 x Leo. The bolt appeared changed and very interestingly checked. Although the LOP was long for me, that stock shape was neat, it sure seemed fairly straight to me, I know there was some drop to it but it put my eye behind the scope without me needing to raise my head. It also had good shape to the wrist. And attractive treatment to the forend. I was impressed. And would just enjoy hearing more about it if you would not mind. Many Thanks HBH | ||
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H&H: If you saw the rifle at Cabela's it was the one I just traded to them. I fell in love with a Frank Well's 416 Rem they had and something had to go. Ray built this rifle and a twin to it in 300 Weatherby. He traded it to Westley Richards and that's when I bought it about 6 or 7 years ago. With the muzzle brake on it it is very pleasant to shoot. I sot a buffalo (42") with it in Zimbabwe about 5 years ago. I'm sorry I traded it already!! LJS | |||
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LJS, Yep, that must be your old rifle. I understand the feeling, it really is a neat rifle. Although I'm not in need of a Lott, I am kind glad the lop was long or I may have jumped. I wonder if Belk may have done that bolt ? I assume Ray did the stock? Any mercury reducers in there? Looked like Blackburn bottom iron is that correct? How many down ?I dont mean to be a pest but I was impressed and still curious. Many Thanks HBH | |||
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H&H: I don't know about the recoil reducers. It does have a substantial secondary bedding block added which certainly adds ounces in the forend. It is a blackburn bottom set up. The gun holds 4 down. I recently had my gunsmith piller bed the action. I don't know the history on the bolt handle other than it is obviously not original. I believe there are a couple of Ray's guns at the Dundee store. LJS | |||
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LJS, Thanks for the replys, always nice to learn more about an interesting rifle from the horse's mouth. I ask about the reducers due to the weight that I felt but didn't see in the barrel. I figured it likly had a second lug on the barrel. The brake was off the rifle when I handled it curious as to how that attached I did see the muzzle, and noticed the slots and reset crown. I'm hopeful Ray will chime in at some point. I would like to hear the inspiration for the stock shape as I dont see that as pure Brit express, but almost a cross with Brit/American classic. Many Thanks HBH | |||
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That stock is a fantastic piece of blood Red, full fiddleback Bastogne, and it was large enough for two stocks so I made a pair, the Lott and a 300 Wby on pre 64 actions.... The muzzle cover is a set up to look like a typical muzzle as I recall with two hole in the crown for a spanner wrench...and it screws in under the barrel band a bit, it has a very heavy 3rd recoil lug 5"s in front of the action recoil lug..The bolt was either an engraved or 4 panel from Jerome Gleem, it dropped straight down as the M-70 bolts tend to thump your trigger finger in the Lott caliber....drop box Blackburn holds 4 down and one up..nothing is in the stock... The stock design is mine and I made the stock from scratch no turning on a stylist...It is English with cast off and just a tad more comb than a English rifle because its a Lott and the irons lined up perfect for me..actually it does take a very little bit of uptilt of the chin or cheek, about 1/32 is a guess, to use a scope, It was designed so that I could use both irons ans scope equally well...it worked well for me...It is more of a very slightly modified English stock, short 8" forend, egg cheek piece, etc. I traded it for Sweet Thang, my old 450-400 Jefferys, a wonderful old gun when Bob Francis was Westley Richards.. It shot exceedingly well and wasn't picky about bullets and powder charges...It also shot to the same POI with or without the Muzzle brake with the loads I used to test it... Thats about all I can recall about the rifle, I built it about 15 years ago. I think I shot a few Buffalo with it and decided I could live with less recoil than the lott produces, at least that justified my selling it, which I tend to do anyway... The Dundee Store (Cabelas') has about 3 of my rifles in stock, they buy as many as I will sell them... Thats about all I can add on that gun, and its 95% accurate information, you know I'm near 71 and CRS is closing in!! the bodys great but the mind, well it never was full throtle!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Ray, Thanks for the run down on the rifle. That sure is an interesting way to cap the threads for the brake, it may be common but I hadn't seen it done under the front sight band that way. Neat rifle muzzle to pad. HBH | |||
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HBH, I think that hidden muzzle brake was my own idea, but you never know about that as someone may have done it a thousand years ago...I just wanted to hide the fact that I had a muzzle brake on it as some folks hate them, but they would use that one at the range for load testing I suspect. Anyway thank you for the kind words. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Okay...I give up. Where can I see this rifle? I just checked Cabela's online gun library and did not see it. Is there a link to it online? My curiosity is piqued! Jason "Chance favors the prepared mind." | |||
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Tex21: It is at Cabela's Wheeling, West Va. store. They are notoriously slow about updating their web site so it may take a while. The gun library manager Ethan Moore may be able to e-mail you some photos. | |||
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I saw this rifle at the Wheeling Cabelas about 2 weeks ago. Very nice. | |||
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Thanks for the lead gentlemen, but I may have to content myself with waiting for the link for now. I've seen a couple photos of Ray's rifles in the past and after all the discussion, I was curious to see some more of his handy work. Hopefully, the Wheeling store will get their information updated soon. And its a shame really; I won't be able to go up and visit my family in Pittsburgh for the holidays this year. Last year, we loaded up and took the short drive over to the Wheeling store. If I were able to go this year, I'd go see the rifle in person. The trip's not in the cards this year. Bummer... Thanks fellows. Jason "Chance favors the prepared mind." | |||
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