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I am having a great deal of trouble finding information on this bore size, so I hope you gentelmen have some of these answers. I need to know the FPS of the .5 lbs projectile out of whatever the standard barrel length was for these guns; around 20-25"?. I know that the standard bore diameter of the 2 bore is 1.325, but is that necessarily diameter of the projectile as well? I also need to know what the standard cartridge length is as well as case volume/capacity. And finaly, who (if anybody) still makes these cases? | ||
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you looking for a breech loader or a muzzel loader if your looking for a front stuffer i can help you out as i owed two of them some basic data i will pm to you try this place joe william will help you out www.thegunworks.com | |||
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Thanks for the information .700 nitro, but unfortunitly for me, I was hopeing for 2 bore brass cartridge info rather then Muzzle Loading information.  But thanks again for taking time out to add your contribution sir!  Anyone else have any info? Cmon Robgunbuilder, Ed Hubel...surely you two big bore addicts have some useful info somewhere!  | |||
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I'll send you a pic. and dimesions this evening | |||
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If you want to know about the 2 bore, I suggest contacting Butch Searcy at www.searcyent.com, since Butch has made them. Better yet, send Butch a deposit and about a year from now, a 2 bore built by Butch will arrive at your local FFL. What could be better than that? | |||
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Quote: I would appreciate that greatly Mickey1! | |||
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Quote: Heh.  | |||
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I think Butch said he actually has a some 2 or 4 bore barrels on hand. Butch has more experience with these than anybody I know. Send Butch LOTS OF MONEY! I looked into the 2-bore, but would rather have a original 8 bore Jeffery double.-Rob | |||
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Quote: Do you know off-hand what the ball park velocity/FPS of the .5 lb. projectile? You see Mr. Gunbuilder, I wanted to get the base cartridge info and then commisioning either Mr. Hubel or yourself, to create a strengthened elongated 2 bore case to increase the velocity of the .5 lb projectile to 2000 fps out of a 30-34" barrel. | |||
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Quote: Better call the BATF to be sure they will not classify that as a destructive device. Maybe you will get away with it since it is based on an existing, although rare, sporting cartridge, but better to be sure in advance. Good luck with the project. | |||
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Quote: Well now I have heard it all, good luck shooting it. It should be a real kick in the ass. | |||
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You might get turned cases made for 2 bore by Bridger.If you went with 4 bore we could make cases from 20mm brass which would be super strong, over twice as strong as turned cases. A 4 bore would take 2000 gr bullets fine.And in a long case hold enough powder to get them over 2700 fps. Or they can be set up slower also.Ed. | |||
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Nishoba01 Sorry, I owe you a big apology. My brain and fingers thought 2 Bore but deep down I was thinking 4 bore. That is what I have, a 4 bore. | |||
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Quote: Hey, no problem Mr. Mickey01. Thank you for the effort though. | |||
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Quote: Do you have the contact info for the Bridger Co. Mr. Hubel? | |||
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Mishoba---Bridger Bullets---5400 Thorp Rd,Suite A---- Belgrade, Montana--59714 inf0@bridgerbullets.com Att- John John is out this week, should be available in a week.Ed | |||
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Thanks, BTW did you recieve my IM Mr. Hubel? | |||
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Nishoba--I got your PM-Yes I will check on 30mm for use in making 2 bore brass for you.Ed. | |||
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Nishoba, I don't think anyone would have made a breechloading cartridge for firing 2 bore solids, although the 2 gauge breechloading gun did exist for shotloads and a few pictures of its brass cases appear from time to time. Just remember at over 2000fps your 2 bore will need to weigh between 50-100lbs. Lastly be wary of Mr 700nitros claims on his 2 bore. If you go to the Big game Muzzleloading forum you will note he has trouble posting the same data from post to post and apparently did his chrongraphing after he had sold his guns. In other words he is lying. Karl. | |||
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Thanks for the heads-up about .700nitros, thus far I've been getting what little information I can from either Mr. Hubel, Mr. Robgunbuilder, and a few others. As far as the weight of the shotgun is concerned, it shouldn't need to exceed 30-34lbs 33-36 barrel, and a propper muzzle break. Ofcourse there will be one helluva kick to the rifle even with a fishgilled type muzzle device and the aforementioned weight/barrel length, but it will still be only half of what it would be if not for the compensator alone. The shotguns that this particular round was fired from weighed (please correct me if I'm wrong guy's) 18-22lbs., had a barrel length of only 20-24 inches, and NO muzzle break whatsoever wich caused many who fired these 2 bore behemoths to come away with severe head-aches, blooy noses, and even occasional brain damage! Sincerely Larry A. | |||
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i did my my reloading data befor i sold my guns. the new owener also has a crony and has also come up with some load data using differnt types or i should say brands of black powder. the new owener of the 2 bore is john collior from arvada CO phone number is 303-422-8956 | |||
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Quote: Although these guns were loaded with black powder, I wish to be able to see my target immediately after the first shot, so I'd be loading with smokeless propellants. Thanks for the info though. Larry A. | |||
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Quote: Yes 700, thanks for the guys phone number AGAIN. We KNOW you bought a 2 bore and sold it. The problem is your load data, which you cannot seem to decide whether you did it yourself, or someone else did, or whether your impossible loads were due to a broken chrony, or 'a typo'.The story changes every time you post. I'll try and help you sort out this latest version. Posted by 700nitro "when you guys said it was immpossible to get 1500 it got me thinking so i had the chony checked out it was broken and had it replaced after checking it a second time after it was fixed and at a distance from the muzzel of at least 12 feet it showed 1300 fps" If you re tested yourself it occurs that you did it after you had sold it, since we alerted you to your 'impossible data' a year or so later. And if 'the other guy' was responsible for the new testing, when we made that post, please explain why you have been saying YOU retested the 1300fps load data all this time? Where you lying last month, or are you lying now? Also were you lying last year when you told us the entire '1500fps claim' was a misquote, a simple typo, 'you meant to write 1300fps' is all. You never mentioned two chronies and two people juggling loads and dates that don't match. This seems to be a new version you started last month. So which is the lie there? I have been telling you since you first started lying here to check your old posts for consistency, and even gave you the chance last month to swtich back to the 'typo story'. You can still do that now if you would like. Actually while I have you here would you mind addressing these other minor indescrepancies you have been avoiding about your 2 bore for several years. - From my post. "Do you realise your old posts list no less than three different weights for your 2 bore/s. 20lbs, 23lbs and 25lbs. Were there 3 two bores then? Another typo? Or maybe a faulty set of scales that required 'retesting' with a new set? Also you quote velocities from 1290-1400fps with the same powder charge of 500gns when you post. There is another post in which you say you "only ever used a chrony the one time". There is a post in which you claim you used the guns for dangerous game in Africa. And another claim you knocked a moose 'off its feet' with a shot from the 2 bore. Yet you said just recently you only ever shot 'a few hogs' with it." Can you help us out with which are the lies there? Or was this done by 'the other guy' too?. Karl. | |||
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