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25 July 2006, 07:44
jnc91
Fire forming load for the 450 Watts
Anyone have a load for fireforming 450 Watts cases from 375 H&H Brass? Your help would be greatly appreciated.


By the way, the rifle is an HB Anderson 450 Watts on a P17 Enfield action. I picked it up on a small shop in East Texas for a steal.

It holds 4 down and feeds empty 375 cases smoothly. I can't wait to take it hunting.

Jeff Collins


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25 July 2006, 08:16
RIP
You are better off getting some Hornady basic brass, straight cylinder H&H head: size it in the 450 Watts die and trim to 2.840".

Your max brass length is 2.850". Fireforming the .375 H&H brass will shorten it quite a bit. You will probably wear it out before it grows to full length.

If you want to use short brass, getting a rebated cast lead bullet with .375 caliber base and .458 caliber foreshank is the cat's meow.

Go fire three rounds of standard .375 H&H in your .450 Watts, measurethe resultant brass and see if you want to live with that. I forget exactly what the result is, maybe 2.790" as Jack Lott might have settled on 2.800" for that reason.

Have you rattled a few .375 bullets through your barrel already?
25 July 2006, 08:40
jeffeosso
Jeff,
shoot me a PM and I'll tell you my receipe


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25 July 2006, 20:25
Masterifleman
A .375 H&H case, any LR primer, 18 grs. Unique on the primer, fill the case to the mouth with cornmeal, tamp a quarter square of toilet paper on the cornmeal with a wooden pencil. Hold the rifle vertical and pull the trigger. Fireforms the case completely but, it will be short as RIP stated, probably as much as 3/32".


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25 July 2006, 21:05
Paul H
I'm with Dr. Ron, just get Hornady basic brass, it's good brass, and I'm at a point where the novelty of fireforming has worn off. You could also use 458 Lott brass, as the lott is essentially just the Watts shortened to 2.80".


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26 July 2006, 07:31
Snowwolfe
What masterrifleman said. It works perfect


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