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Hey all, I am soon to be taking delivery of my latest project. A MRC .416 Rem. Mag. Its time to get going on another one! Heres what I am thinking. I have 4 custom jobs all with "glass" stocks. I have always been intrigued with the "Classic Express" bolt action. I have been in contact with Karl at W. Hein, and have started the ball rolling on a new rifle. I want this to be my one and only classic type rifle with a real nice piece of wood on it. It will possibly be used for AK Brown Bear, 1 or 2 trips to Africa, possibly a Mtn. Griz, and use here in Alberta for Elk, Moose, and Black Bear. I have been looking on some websites for wood (any suggestions, on some links to further my search?). The biggest dilemma I have is in choosing theee "Classic" chambering. I had in my mind a .404 Jeffery, then it was a .416 Rigby, now its a .375 H+H. I know all those are "Classic" chamberings, any other ideas? I most recently started thinking .375 because I am to recieve the .416 (not much need for another .40 Cal.) I have a .280 Rem.,30/06, 7mmSTW, a .300 WM, a .338 WM, .450 Marlin, and a .416. I'm thinking there is an opening in there for a .375.... Any ideas at all folks, I would love to here them!! Heres a couple pics of what Karl and I have in mind. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/cmfic1/100_1082.jpg http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b257/cmfic1/100_1078.jpg Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | ||
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You just provided the perfect job description for a 375 H&H. Considering you already have a 416 on the way, I'd suggest your instincts are right about the 375. Just about the only other thing to consider would be to build a synthetic stocked 375 H&H as your all-around North American rifle, and build your wood stocked classic in a 404 or 416. As for stock blanks, take a look at http://www.denli-gunstocks.com/ He's giving us 10% off if you see something you like. PM me for the details. ______________________________ "Truth is the daughter of time." Francis Bacon | |||
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ForrestB thanx for your reply, Karl and I had discussed having them do a synthetic stock as well, that way, for the harsher type hunts, I have the option of just dropping it in the glass. Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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If I was going to get a Hein I would want it in 458 Lott or one of the other 458 rounds. This is assuming you are going to Africa on 3 or 4 Safaris. If Not baised on what you have already then a 375 makes perfect sense. You might think anbout a second stock, just like the wood one for the bad weather hunts. Half the animals you mentioned are what I would consider bad weather hunts..... but I must admit I have taken my 400 British double to Alaska twice, Montana twice, and my wood stocked Blaser R93 to Alaska, all of those hunts I was in "really" bad weather. With the proper finish on the stock and a little care it has not been a problem. I plan omn taking my Blaser K 95 Stutzen single shot on my 17 day Canadian Goat/black bear hunt in 2007. DOUBLE RIFLE SHOOTERS SOCIETY | |||
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Just because you hunt in bad weather does not mean you have to have an ugly rifle. | |||
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Hey guys, I have already discussed the 2nd stock thing with Karl, and we will indeed have an alternative stock.....I've personally never thought of glass stocks as ugly, but to each his own iguess. And I had thoughbriefly about a .458 but really havent done the research on it, and I have plans to go to Africa a couple times, but the only "big" things I would hunt is Cape Buff, and I think I could easily handle that with the .416 or .375. Rod -------------------------------- "A hunter should not choose the cal, cartridge, and bullet that will kill an animal when everything is right; rather, he should choose ones that will kill the most efficiently when everything goes wrong" Bob Hagel | |||
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If you don't currently have a 375, that is the one I would choose. Would be great for your purposes. Hein makes great rifles.... Should be a beauty. Also try metalandwood.com for wood. | |||
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Had a chance to see that Waffenfabrick Hein 404 Jeffery, at the NRA show, the pics do not do it justice, it is fantasic. I am not much of a fan of single shots but Hein also had a switch barrel falling block 375 flanged/500NE that changed my mind. I have a couple DGRs on order with Hein, a 404 Jeffery and 375 also ordered an extra syn.stock for each. Now I just have to figure out exactly how I want the rifle set-up and stock profile....should be fun! ForrestB pointed out that Denli is giving all Accurate Reloading members a 10 percent discount. Denli also provided a significant contribution to the Scholarship Rifle Project (see gunsmith forum) in honor of Sheryl Searcy. http://www.denli-gunstocks.com I purchased a couple of blanks from Denli and they are exceptional. Good luck on your project and I would be interested in knowing how you set-up your rifle. | |||
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www.rifleactions.com I too have a synthetic stocked HEIN, Caliber 450 Dakota. That's 416 Rigby opened up to .458 for those who do not know. Now doubt it will kill anything, if aimed right. Jack OH GOD! {Seriously, we need the help.} | |||
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I would suggest a classic round such as the .404 Jeffery or the 375 H&H, or else for a stopper round the .458 Lott since it is so practical. With 400 grain pointed bullets, the Lott makes an excellent elk and moose cartridge too. | |||
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I'm currently having a rifle built by W. Hein and it should be almost completed (orginal targeted deliver date was June of 2006). I'm having it stocked in a McMillian (Darcy Echols pattern) fiberglass stock and there was a slight delay in getting that particular stock from McMillian. I too worked with Karl at W.Hein and he is a pleasure to work with! I chose to have my rifle rust blued in the event that I wanted to re-stock in a pretty wood stock at a later date. I picked the fiberglass option first, specifically for bear hunting in Alaska. I have hunted some in Alaska and every time we had a lot of wet weather (not the place I want to take a $$$ wood stock). I think it would be hard to go wrong in selecting the 375H&H as your "classic" caliber. Having said that, I chose to have mine built in 375RUM. I already have a custom 375H&H (my wife kind of claimed it as her own, therefore it gave me an excuse to get another 375). I also have a 416Rigby and a 470NE ordered from Searcy, which both have pretty wood stocks. | |||
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No doubt their N series actions are beautiful, but I'm waiting impatiently to see their new mauser action. The thought of one of them in 404 jeffery gets my blood pumping. | |||
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I have both a 416 rem and a 375 H&H, my 416 will shoot flatter with the 350 gr tsx than the 375 with 270 gr TSX. I would build a 458 lott or 500 a sq. the lott would be cheeper and easier to sell if it fell from your favor. JD DRSS 9.3X74 tika 512 9.3X74 SXS Merkel 140 in 470 Nitro | |||
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Is their bolt/bolthandle in one piece? Or is it solderd on? | |||
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I like the 416 Rem mag best of all the big bore calibers when the tough get going in Alaska.I have 6 416 rem mags rifles including the new one I just bought a stainless Remington model 700.I like the 416 Rem mag up close with my 410 gr woodleigh reloads or the 400 gr Swift factory loads.I have found the remington factory loads just about anywhere at any gunshop here in Alaska.I like the Barnes 350 gr x bullets for long rang as in 350-400 yards .The 325 gr barnes x bullet was the best bullet avaible except its gone.I hear the Noth fork bullets are good too.I like the plain old 350 gr speer mag tip bullets for all around shooting .If you load the speer 350 gr bullet and new brass it can be loaded for around $1 a shot which is cheap ammo for a big bore.I use the 350 gr speer at 2400 fps for most of my target shooting. | |||
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http://www.hunterbid.com for wood. http://www.24hourcampfire.com click on Outfitters Gear Shop then on Accurate Innovations for stocks. | |||
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Our Bolt handles are pinned and Tig Welded to the bolt body. | |||
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I would add that the root of the handle is machined integral to the bolt. We have to start with 1.375 diameter barstock to achieve this. | |||
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I would opt for either the .404 J or a .375 H&H and would prefer a .404 J if it where to be one classic wood stocked gun. | |||
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