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Not sure if this is the proper place, but on 8-15-13 TCM is broadcasting The Macomber Affair. I live in CO and it is scheduled for 6 PM. Just thought I would pass it on. | ||
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Since a .505 Gibbs is featured in the story, of course it is the right place. JudgeG ... just counting time 'til I am again finding balm in Gilead chilled out somewhere in the Selous. | |||
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Thanks for the tip. I started using "The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber" in my English classes in the mid 1990's. We put poor old Margot on trial after reading the story. I took dummy 6.5, 30-06 and 505 ctgs to class so kids could see what the story talked about. It helped motivate me to become a big bore nut. My students probably think I'm just a nut who is a big bore. I did find a movie had been made from the short story but couldn't find a copy. Hemingway listed "Macomber" first in a list of seven of his stories he liked best. In a May 12, 1942 letter to the editor of the anthology This is My Best Hemingway wrote, "If you want to print a selection of my work, I would suggest your reprinting 'The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber' and simply say that Mr. Hemingway thought that this was as reprintable as any other of his stories." | |||
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Gents: If you would like a copy PM me and I'll give you the name of the company that markets it in Spanish but it can be played in English. I got a copy a few months ago and love the film. Cal _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Cal, There was an article in Sporting Classics about the events that Hemmingway wrote of in "Short Happy Life". Interestingly the historical main character in the action was Col. John Henry Patterson, author of "Man Eaters of Tsavo". It goes on to say that Patterson eventually moved to Los Angeles and lived out the remainder of his life there. Best; Brett | |||
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Thanks for the heads up, I will set the DVR. Mike | |||
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Dan; I also had my American Lit kids read "The Short Happy Life . . . ." Or more accurately, I read it aloud to them. I also made up a vocabulary list, with definitions, so they could appreciate some of Hemingway's references. Most kids today wouldn't know what a "solid" is, or what "shauri" means. After we read the story I showed "The Macomber Affair" which immediately was dismissed because it was in black & white. High school students refuse to watch anything if it's not in color. But I made them watch it, and then we discussed the differences between the film and the short story. Why were certain events changed, how come there are more characters in the movie than the story, why did the director "Hollywood-Up" the ending? Then we talked a little about Macomber's cowardice and what Hemingway thought a man should be, and of course there was a debate about Margot's guilt or innocence. I just felt like the kids should be exposed to literature about hunting, and Africa, and Hemingway's short story filled the bill. Sadly, I don't think it made much of an impression on them. But maybe that was because their teacher wasn't better at what he did. LTC, USA, RET Benefactor Life Member, NRA Member, SCI & DSC Proud son of Texas A&M, Class of 1969 "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Robert Browning | |||
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Nitro, It is a fun story to use. My seniors this year are a rather conservative, pro-gun, bunch so the story should go over well. The movie sounds good from reviews I've read. | |||
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In the school system where I was teaching (until 2009) American Lit is a junior course; seniors take British Lit. I taught both. If you'd like to use "The Macomber Affair" PM me off line and I'll see if I can make a copy. LTC, USA, RET Benefactor Life Member, NRA Member, SCI & DSC Proud son of Texas A&M, Class of 1969 "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Robert Browning | |||
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Thanks for the offer. Cal Pappas (above) said he has a line on copies. | |||
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Don't sell yourself too short! I think you did a great job at making them think, and that is hard with today's kids. It may not have seemed to make in immediate impact but trust me, it did. I have had students that I taught 10 years ago or more bump into me and tell me what a huge impact something I had done had made to them. What you plant will grow, it just takes time. H. Cole Stage III, FRGS ISC(PJ), USN (Ret) "You do not have a right to an opinion. An opinion should be the result of careful thought, not an excuse for it." Harlan Ellison " War is God's way to teach Americans geography." Ambrose Bierce | |||
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Loved the movie. It was closer to the short story than I thought it would be. It was a well executed film. No 505 though! Wilson used a Springfield 03 on buff. Come on. | |||
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Getting past the Hemingway outlook is hard for me. Still, it was enjoyable in the same way as "Snows of Kilimanjaro" -- kinda like the old detective stories. Movies then were more about the actors than showing true life. The animals were real anyhow. _______________________ | |||
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+1  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition” ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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-1  They could have borrowed my Gibbs; shame! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition” ― Rudyard Kipling | |||
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Watched the show last night then borrowed a first edition copy from one of my wifes English teacher friends & read that today. They were very close although in the short story you get the feeling that it WAS an accident.  Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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The story seemed more sympathetic, but the event that the story was based on was very fishy. For the unaware, this story was based on a hunt conducted by Col Patterson of the Man Easter of Tsavo fame. The husband was killed by a revolver shot to the head. Was it suicide or did she kill him? | |||
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We may be a bit off the Big Bore issue, but not too far. Was it an accident? I have to say "no." Hemingway, the he-man misogynist, is not going to let Margot off the hook. She has emasculated Francis over the years which he allowed. The lion issue encapsulates their whole relationship. But he started to regain his self-confidence upon killing the buffs. She now knows he won't put up with her attitude and shenanigans any more. She has no independent source of money and she's getting older so landing another big fish is doubtful. Divorce or inherit? She saw the opportunity and took it. Big bore relevance: Hemingway wanted Francis to thrive by overcoming the dangerous animals and prove to himself that he could be a man. You've got to have cajones to take on a buff with a 30-06. The '06 is indirectly at fault. If the buff were anchored then no secondary charge scene would have occurred. Use a bigger gun. Additionally, Hemingway was a pessimist so Francis was doomed from the start. Remember The Old Man and the Sea. The guy had skill, determination and luck and still lost. Big Bore shoot tomorrow - got to go. | |||
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To me, as I was taught, the key has always been the absence of a comma between "short" and "happy." Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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Right--Hemingway was obsessive about choosing exactly the best/most precise word, and this extended to punctuation. Francis' "happy" life was indeed short--less than about 15 minutes, it would appear. LTC, USA, RET Benefactor Life Member, NRA Member, SCI & DSC Proud son of Texas A&M, Class of 1969 "A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven for?" Robert Browning | |||
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It's known as the "Oxford" comma. Doug Humbarger NRA Life member Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 72'73. Yankee Station Try to look unimportant. Your enemy might be low on ammo. | |||
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