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Seeing that CZ have brought out a Gibbs on their action it made me wonder how durable or breakable the bolt head would be opened out to meet the gibbs case. It looks like a mighty small amount of metal left. Do you reckon in the real world of hunting their are going to be reliability issues with the bolt surround breaking?
 
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Haven't had the opportunity to see the device. Given that the material is likely some Czech variant of HR HT in the 4100 or 4300 family - it's likely not overly stout.

If there's a need, a new bolt head or entire assembly could be forged, heat treated/aged, and machined from C350. (This is how we make highly stressed components)

We could make a few for you - just send us the parts! Oh!....it will cost about as much as an H&H Royal Double too. Eeker
 
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Its adequate for normal service but vulnerable to being dropped on a hard surface. I'm very careful when removing the bolt from mine.


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The bolt head and face on the CZ 500 M is the hardest I've ever come across. Probably made from old Soviet tanks. The only time they are succeptable to damage is when they are out of the rifle.
 
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Could be. I'm in that neck of the woods every fall and there is a lot of obsolete hardware rusting away in the villages. Was at one outdoor museum last fall - the guy just collected the stuff wherever he saw it and shipped back to his place by truck. Could have out-gunned most small countries with what he had.
 
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Here is what the CZ .505 Gibbs boltface looks like, before a badly needed polishing of the extractor edge:


 
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Not much metal there. What happened to the extractor? Using it as a nail puller?
 
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Originally posted by Macifej:
... What happened to the extractor ...


A CZ Safari Classic finish happened there.
 
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Looks Like Bubba Neanderpithecus made that with two rocks! Ouch! I'm guessing it works ok though. I can't imagine a proper Czech making such a thing.
 
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I can't imagine a proper Czech making such a thing.


Dorothy and Toto in Kansas did that one, using parts shipped from Czechoslovakia and a Dremel Tool.
 
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Should have gone to see the Wizard!
 
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This issue has been covered many times before. Much ado about nothing. The .030 rim thickness is not a problem and never has been. The CZ.505 Gibbs has other problems.-Rob


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So .700 bolt is sweet just don't drop it on a hard surface...or save some money and buy a .750 bolt action.
 
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Never taken one apart. Is the bolt body a relatively simple cylinder or tube shape? If so it would be fairly easy to make something super tough at a reasonable cost - then you wouldn't have to worry about dinging it. I would be more concerned about the "other" problems that Rob mentioned.
 
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