My Lothar Walther 5130 barrel (Mauser Type E) just arrived.

Here are some quick pics.

Beautiful blank, what sights are being mounted on this?
bigbull

I'm using the Recknagel barrel-banded front and rear sights.

That's a nice looking set up you have there. I can't wait to see what it looks like assembled. What action will you use?

If you don't mind my asking, about how much could a fellow expect to pay for this barrel and sights? I'm thinking I may wish to order this set for the 8x68s I've got in the works.

Looks great!

I have the same barrel and sights in the works right now in both a 9.3x62 and a 7x57. Sure hope to see them from the gunsmith in the next month or so and then I will post pictures of the parts fully assembled.

Tim

Woody and his crew over in Georgia do good work!
I own 2 of his Magnum Sporter Contoured barrels in .423

Do they do a similar style contour for smaller calibers?

That thing looks too cool for school.

LD

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Originally posted by new_guy:
I'm using the Recknagel barrel-banded front and rear sights.

That is going to be one sweet looking setup
Are the sights made especially for this barrel or is there alot of fitting required? What do the barrel and sights cost?
bigbull

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Originally posted by lawndart:
Do they do a similar style contour for smaller calibers?


LD

Yes, I have one in 7mm

Tim

Thanks Shumba,

That might look good on my G33/40, hmmmmmm....

new guy, that's a great looking barrel and will look even better with your sight package. Can you tell me the dimensions on the barrel? Specifically: length, diameter at the steps and muzzle diameter.
Thanks,
Forrest

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Originally posted by bigbull:

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Originally posted by new_guy:
I'm using the Recknagel barrel-banded front and rear sights.

That is going to be one sweet looking setup
Are the sights made especially for this barrel or is there alot of fitting required? What do the barrel and sights cost?
bigbull

Both sights come in a variety of diameters - including the rear banded sight with integral recoil lug.

IIRC, the barrel was about $240, and I'm not sure what the sights cost as i haven't purchased them yet, but they are probably in the $100/each range.

The action is nearing completion and the stock blank has already been picked out, so I'll keep you up to date on the progress. Hopefully it's all done before the end of the year.

new guy,

Sweet looking barrel!!!

Keep us posted as your project moves along.

Regards,
Dave

Thanks 22WRF, I'm lazy.

Contour #5130: Mauser Type E Sporter (for type A rifles)

ØD1 = 0.625"
ØD2 = 0.800"
ØD3 = 0.865"
ØD4 = 0.923"
ØD5 = 1.200"
L1 = 2.00"
L2 = 2.79"
L3 = 3.79"
L4 = 6.49"
L5 = 26"

Does that barrel have a .416 bore or a .423 bore?

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Originally posted by D Humbarger:
Does that barrel have a .416 bore or a .423 bore?

It's .423.

LW says they took these dimensions off an original mauser barrel in 404.

It's a little on the light side at 2 lbs 12 oz, but of course, that's without the sights too.

With 5 rounds and no scope, I expect it to come in a little under 9.5 lbs.

If you wanted one to weigh more than that, you should definitely tell LW to leave a little more meat on the barrel.

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I'm using the Recknagel barrel-banded front and rear sights.

Amazing, but that is the exact set-up I have going for my little stalking rifle that is in the works. Ihave not ordered the rear band yet. What is the part number for it?

My barrel will be crowned at 25 inches.

New guy is going with one of my 375 length actions for that barrel his wood is here i'll post some pictures of the action and the construction of this rifle as it comes to be.
Timan/Satterlee

Yowzer! That is the size barrel I would consider ideal for a 6.75 pound .375 H&H, like the one with a one pound stock in the photo below. That one has a Douglas barrel that is .625" at the muzzle. It will make a poorly balanced .404 Jeffery with a wood stock, unless you put some lead in the forearm to add back some weight. It will be quite lovely if so.

Can a barrel be discribed as SEXY! ?? Lothar Walter stand out as a world class business that pays attention to the customers & produces what the customers ask for!

Well done Woody.

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Amazing, but that is the exact set-up I have going for my little stalking rifle that is in the works. Ihave not ordered the rear band yet. What is the part number for it?

Just measure your barrel (don't guess beforehand). Go to the NECG site. Select the barrel band and hit the drop down menu. Then select the correct size, pay with CC securely and wait 7-10 days.

Easy, peasy, pudding 'n pie.

LD

Ya know,

If one could restrain themselves to use the 404J at the original pressure/velocity, this barrel and a worked over model 98 receiver would make a light, lithe and elegant walk around rifle.

That would be a 14" twist, $255 in stainless versus $233 chrome-moly.

It would be about 0.643" diameter at the 24" mark, given 0.625" at the 26" length, LW Mauser.

A lively 10.75x68mm or 10.75x73mm that would be.

How about one of those in stainless for a flyweight .404 Dakota on a Ruger M77 MkII stainless?

If not, my fourth McGowen 10" twist .423 caliber barrel will be on the way, though I would choose a muzzle diameter of 0.675" at 24" for it, don't ya know, and expect a 7 pound .404 Dakota Ruger to deliver 400 grainers at 2400 fps.

I know what I like.

The LW Holland&Holland contour is 0.650" diameter at the 26" length, so about 0.677" at the 24" crown.

I did not mention that mine ill be in the little 6.5Swede. I am not going for the featherweight look at all!

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Originally posted by RIP:
Yowzer! That is the size barrel I would consider ideal for a 6.75 pound .375 H&H, like the one with a one pound stock in the photo below. That one has a Douglas barrel that is .625" at the muzzle. It will make a poorly balanced .404 Jeffery with a wood stock, unless you put some lead in the forearm to add back some weight. It will be quite lovely if so.

RIP - That's what I thought when I opened the box and first saw the barrel!

I'm still a little skeptical myself, but I double checked the dimensions and it is what was used on the original Oberndorf 404s… maybe they knew something we don’t?

We’ve guessed it at a little over 9 pounds, but are going to weigh all of the components and give the balance of the gun some detailed thought before screwing and gluing it all together. If after that it needs a heavier barrel, well then we’ll just have to order another one… a little heavier.

Like a good double, I want the weight between the hands as much as possible, and the thin muzzle may help keep the weight off of the front sight. Then again, it may just be too light out front.

The idea is that this is to be a 9.5 lb 2150 fps gun, not a 10.5 lb 2400 fps gun.

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The idea is that this is to be a 9.5 lb 2150 fps gun, not a 10.5 lb 2400 fps gun.

This is exactly what I want too! My next rifle and a great combo between the 40 cal, velocity and weight.

Maybe the Recknagel hardware will be enough to balance it, eh?

Just for yuks, here is some very poor photography with the only (cheap) camera I could find at the moment. This is a .510 caliber stainless McGowen barrel (10" twist) with a 1.320" diameter "lump" left on the barrel, which is 28" long and 0.820" diameter at the end. The beginnings of a .500 Mbogo RIPoff, or a darn fine tent peg :

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Originally posted by Timan:
New guy is going with one of my 375 length actions for that barrel his wood is here i'll post some pictures of the action and the construction of this rifle as it comes to be.
Timan/Satterlee

Thought I recognised the photography. Can't wait to see the in progress pics as they come to be. Good one.

- stu

I am going to have to buy one of these barrels in 9.3mm

This is what a Montana Rifleman made barrel with the same measurements looks like. This one is in 6.5mm

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I used a #1450 contour lothar barrel for my .404 J and could not be happier, though that one looks nice to.

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Originally posted by 333_OKH:
I did not mention that mine ill be in the little 6.5Swede. I am not going for the featherweight look at all!

That E pattern barrel was originally for 40 cal and higher and as you said, will make for a substantial looking 6.5. I like the idea, too.

I have one coming any day in 30 cal, 20" long for a Mannlicher style. LW reduced the diameter coming off the island boss a few thousandths but maintained the same taper to the muzzle to reduce the overall weight. I'll post a pic as soon as it gets here. This one will be a 30-40 Krag on a slant-box Rigby transitional Mauser '98.

I am having another 404 Jeffery built with an eye to lightness. It is very hard to get someone to build a light contour barrel for a boomer. I have tried 5 times to get a walk around Jeffery weighing in at 7.5 lbs without a scope. I have ordered such a rifle 5 times and never got any closer than 9.5 lbs. I am hoping this 22" rifle will get it done. I recently saw a 10.75x68 in poor condition that weigh about 8 lbs that was nice feeling in the hand as well as being light enough to carry all day. With a great set of rings and quick off bases the rifle would do very well.

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
I have one coming any day in 30 cal, 20" long for a Mannlicher style. LW reduced the diameter coming off the island boss a few thousandths but maintained the same taper to the muzzle to reduce the overall weight. I'll post a pic as soon as it gets here. This one will be a 30-40 Krag on a slant-box Rigby transitional Mauser '98.

I can't wait to see this one when it's put together.

The LW barrel patterns pictured look so classy. Don't they make ideas just spin in your head?!

lb404, I'm trying to put together a "light" 416 Rigby, but my target is 9.5 lbs. 7.5 lbs in a big bore I think falls into the ultra-light catagory - I get a twitch just thinking about it.

Newguy, thanks for posting the pics. I ordered one in .510 caliber last week, with some custom dimensions.

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Originally posted by ForrestB:

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Originally posted by tiggertate:
I have one coming any day in 30 cal, 20" long for a Mannlicher style. LW reduced the diameter coming off the island boss a few thousandths but maintained the same taper to the muzzle to reduce the overall weight. I'll post a pic as soon as it gets here. This one will be a 30-40 Krag on a slant-box Rigby transitional Mauser '98.

I can't wait to see this one when it's put together.

The LW barrel patterns pictured look so classy. Don't they make ideas just spin in your head?!

lb404, I'm trying to put together a "light" 416 Rigby, but my target is 9.5 lbs. 7.5 lbs in a big bore I think falls into the ultra-light catagory - I get a twitch just thinking about it.

Your Wiebe 7x57 provided much of the inspiration and motivation to do this. With my limited craftsmanship it won't look like a Wiebe but it will owe its existence to him.

I talked to Timan last week and I believe he realizes how close the upcoming safari shows are (relatively speaking).

I expect that you'll see some assembly photos starting pretty quickly.

Right, Timan?

Looking forward to those picutres too!